Ferrari chatter arrested

The story was picked up by Jalopnik:

http://jalopnik.com/5525486/drug-kingpins-own-secret-addiction-car-forums

 

what I don't get is if he is Alexander Surin , how did he come to trial at the crown under the name of Mike Boparan for a HMRC Customs and Excise case

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2681035.stm

 

Interesting read about his collection thats been seized including two Enzos and two Veyrons, his screen name is Icemanbop. Fchat quotes are mentioned thats what drew my atention to it. Sorry if a re post but i did try a search. http://jalopnik.com/5525486/drug-kingpins-own-secret-addiction-car-forums?skyline=true&s=i http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/26042010/36/crime-boss-pound-4m-supercars-seized-0.html

 

It down in Supercars, as most of his were!

He left here after getting his feelings hurt.........hasn't been around in awhile.....that link doesn't work for me.

FerrariChat was MENTIONED?? Where???

 

Are you positive this is the same person?

 

Matt from Jalopnik seems convinced

hes even screenshotted posts made here on fchat

Wow just Wow

http://jalopnik.com/5525486/drug-kingpins-own-secret-addiction-car-forums?skyline=true&s=i

 

Wow 4 Sure.

 

Here is the link to the one quoted in the article:

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=138134898&postcount=134

 

His last activity was March 13 2010:

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143331

 

There are accounts under the same name on the Pistonheads forum and on Benzworld, where he talks about his SLR Roadster and refers to himself as a "Pharma Manufacturer."



http://www.benzworld.org/forums/97648-icemanbops.html


lol

 

Here is a cut and paste of the article mate. Including the extracts/quotes from fchat.





One would expect a lifestyle like Alexander Surin's to stand out. But despite jet-setting around Europe for his "business," which, according to European police, most certainly included organized crime and drug-running, and amassing a collection of some of the most expensive exotic cars in the world, Surin supposedly lived a very quiet public life. Police claim he drove a "humble banger" around England rather than one of his fleet of exotic cars and never flaunted his amazing ill-gotten wealth.

That's because Surin kept his love of exotic cars hidden from the real world. Instead he chose to freely flaunt it in the digital world.

In 2006, Surin created an anonymous account on the Ferrari Chat (membership required) forum, a semi-exclusive online automotive lounge for owners and lovers of the famed Italian marque. It was there where he posted under the name "Icemanbops," a hilarious screen name given "iceman" is a slang term for a cocaine dealer. The "Bops" part is likely because this Alexander Surin is also likely Michael Boparan, a trader busted in a major customs sting in 2003 whose conviction was overturned due to a mistake on the part of the prosecution.

There are accounts under the same name on the Pistonheads forum and on Benzworld, where he talks about his SLR Roadster and refers to himself as a "Pharma Manufacturer."

Considering the secrecy with which he lived his life — police say he stashed more than $1.1 million in cash in the cars they found — the details he shared online — photos, and information about his Ferraris and about future Ferrari products — is astonishing.

It's clear in the many posts we examined on FerrariChat that Surin was seeking praise for his generosity (buying cars for his brother and wife) and also the acknowledgment of his amazing collection he couldn't get in the real world.

Most of the other forum members gave Surin platitudes:

"Congrats!! I enjoy all of your threads. Please continue to post photos of your great collection. Most of us could only dream of living the great life that you are. "

What a life indeed.

in hindsight, some of the comments Surin posted on the forum are extremely appropriate, including an acknowledgment of the best way to do business with a dealer:

In Europe its really a matter of getting to know your local dealer and getting a order placed.

They will always take an order with deposit, its just a matter of then opening up a dialogue to ensure you get yours as quickly as possible and then not flipping it. Once you have one on ordered and delivered the next one is much easier.

He was also incredibly well-connected with the Ferrari establishment, sharing information about the Ferrari 599 GTO, which debuted this last week in China, way back in February 2009:

Just to let you know that Ferrari will be building a 599 GTO, it will be a strictly limited edition car, offered to invited known Ferrari owners. Will let you know as I have more details, car will be available end of this year.

Other than the timing he was completely right.

Not everyone took to "Icemanbops," who went by the name "Mike" (possibly in reference to his real name) in private conversations, mostly because there were few who believed someone could own all these cars. At one point another member calls BS on Surin's request for help in locating an Enzo, not realizing who he was dealing with.

An offended Surin responds:

No Doubt you have seen or heard it all before. I am not here to waste anyones time, I have subscribed to this forum and simply requested help from people who have a genuine interest and regard for this marque. I could buy the first and probably most expensive car offered, wouldn't make sense as its not how I run my life or my businesses. I also enjoy the hunt. (emphasis added)

No one seems to ask what his business is, and he never tells. When someone presses him later to prove after he buys the Enzo its his he says he'll do whatever it takes to prove the car is his except pose for a picture with it. "I will answer every question and pander to all requests for pics (of the car that is)!" His brother, however, he was okay with showing in pictures.

Surin drops off the forums after April 2008 but returns in October to crow about the new Enzo (his second) he'd purchased. Once again he's faced with skepticism from people unaware of the type of person is on the other end of the message board. Calmly and coolly he withdraws from the forum:

Gentlemen

I take offense in having my integrity questioned. It has been in this thread and also in the 5 yr old Lebanon Enzo thread.

I am withdrawing from F-chat as an active participant, it should be a forum that shares and involves and invokes enthusiasts of this very special marque. I have given a number of inside lines as to new cars coming into production and many insights into cars I own. However I am getting tired of defending myself, I shall just enjoy the cars I have and the many on order.

Not being too sensitive at all, just tired of it. Will just smash about in the cars from now on and keep my opinions to myself and live the dream. If you ever see me , hoot or pull up and have a chat. Take it easy

Bye guys.

Mike.

He did return, once again, to talk about his displeasure with his Ferrari California ("Even my wife won't buy it") and to share the news of his Bugatti purchases. His last post was in August 2009 and concerned with who might be the first to buy a Ferrari 458 Italia. That wasn't the last time he'd hit the FerrariChat forum. According to his profile, he last signed on March 13th at 5:46 am. He made no posting since and now has deleted his profile. Was he on the run from the cops? Did he know he was being hunted?


A spokesperson for the SOCA (Serious Organized Crime Agency) of the British Government confirmed to Jalopnik they discovered a large number of cars, including the ones listed above, but didn't have more information on what else was being searched for. Given what's on the FerrariChat forum it's clear there's more out there.

 

^^^^ Yeah I checked his profile just now because I SWEAR that's the occupation he had listed for Fchat also.

 

Interesting. I never thought he owned all those cars. Guess I was wrong!

 

Actually in one of the threads Gregg here in Houston asked him point blank about his occupation, LOL!

Score = 1 for our new in house Crime Dog!!!

I had him pegged as Russian mafia myself, lots of them have gone ex-pat into London.....

 

The jalopnik link names this site and quotes many of his posts, from here......"icemanbops" it is!!!

Also states they found over a million cash stashed in one of his vehicles........Did he give $1.6M for the second Enzo? Sounds high......the price I mean....

 

Somebody in the comment section of the article said this:

 

This is all just speculation to me.

Do I think it is him? Yes. But all we have is just armchair theorizing, including that article.

 

Basle wasn't so blase after all.

 

There are other links to

http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/26042010/36/crime-boss-pound-4m-supercars-seized-0.html

 

mere coincidence that his nickname is slang for drugs and that there are accounts under the same name on the Pistonheads forum and on Benzworld, where he talks about his SLR Roadster and refers to himself as a "Pharma Manufacturer."

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/97648-icemanbops.html

It seems from that angle hes given himself away. Interestingly nobody picked up it when he was having his hissy fit previously here on fchat.

 

...and an arrest.

 

His last name was also Boparan

 

Someone has been but are you/we sure that he has?

 

Actually, one of our Houston chatters asked him point blank what he did for a living....

...and he's gone into Law Enforcement now...LOL!

He was pretty close to it....I have no idea if he knew the street slang for the drugs, I know I didn't....

But then, I've danced in a nightclub downtown here that turned out to be a nationwide distribution point for ectasy...I just thought all the girls were happy to see me!!

 

Bagged him in Spain, one article stated......