Wow... I remember marveling at the cars, the spat over whether he actually owned them, and his subsequent absence... Live hard, fall hard... but no doubt fun while it lasted. -Tad
Another reminder that law enforcement does monitor chat sites. It's just a matter of time before an FChatter has his car impounded by the EPA enforcement division after posting all about how they removed the cats and other emission control devices on their road car...
Well, the "cash grab" on a decatted 348 or 355 would be no where NEAR this headline news!! LOL! You are absolutely right......I don't understand why they do that anyway.
Wow; was just reading about this story. Incredible simply because i remember when he was making the posts about his AMAZING car collection on here. Seemed like this guy really was living the life; guess we know the real story now.
If this is icemanbops or not, it just goes to show that this kind of life can not live this kind of lifestyle, or atleast can not sustain it for long. Things are not like they where 20 years ago, all Miami vice style. I'm sure things are only going to get even harder for this kind of life. +1 on the resale of the cars. Quite a nice result for SOCA to generate the cash from the resale of these cars, too much to throw away to crush them ( we hope).
Mike- Except in a courts martial, everybody gets the same deal. Except maybe overseas. Taz Terry Phillips
It will be interesting to see how this shakes out... Money to burn...no doubt a 'Dream Team' of lawyers... Mike
As well as missing the link i posted (http://jalopnik.com/5525486/drug-kingpins-own-secret-addiction-car-forums?skyline=true&s=i0 , you must have missed the cut and paste i did in post #8 also
One would think that, yes. It is the obvious, intelligent option, to reclaim some of the money spent to investigate and prosecute the offender. It makes perfect sense. Which is precisely why I'm afraid the government involved will toss 'em in the crusher.
Now I wonder if the dude is gonna log on from "wherever" to tell everyone he's gonna be elephant hunting for 5-10 years?
In theory, yes. In practice, not necessarily. Unfortunately, not everyone can afford an OJ defense. Then there are the cases, even "today", where the court is biased or corrupt. For example, the recent case of the judge found to have accepted bribes to send juvies up, many times for trivial "crimes", in order to juice the profits of the detention facilities. We also know that police routinely tell bald-faced lies about the circumstances surrounding arrests.
The article in post #1 says he will soon be on trial in France. I think France has a different law than ours and "innocent until proven guilty" is one of those differences.
Point 1) as far as I can tell, no concerete link has been made between the arrested and the profile user Icemanbops. Coincedences yes, a guilty verdict, no. Point 2) I do not like being pointed at in this matter. I have had some contact with the person and know somebody that knows him, and on each occasion I found Mike to be a very plesant man. I alliance is with him. I was not involved in the aquisition of this car, I point out yet again, Alexander Surin and Icemanbops have not been connected by anybody substantial, just keyboard detectives. I am sure Napolis is not happy either. To the mods, you are brave allowing such discreditation of a man with such resources as those of Mike Bops.
That is the truth. Assuming all of these acccusations are true, he is an elitist. The drug-dealing world is much akin to normal society that you and I experience on a daily basis; most people in any given society will never be able to spend a cool mil on a car--or anything for that matter. Most people want to get ahead in life, and most drug dealers are actively seeking to move up a level and find a new source that can supply a larger quantity at any given time. Not many drug dealers get to the point where they can drop millions of dollars on cars; it usually takes a very long time. As with normal investments risk and reward have a positive correlation. Anyone can sell 20 pills of Ecstasy or a 8-ball of coke. Yay, you made a couple hundred bucks. No real risk, and even if you get caught you're getting probation. When you move up to a level that involves trans-oceanic/border shipments the complexities of logistics multiply ten-fold, thereby introducing a new and unexperienced type of headache that disappears only when the shipment has successfully arrived at the buyer and the monies have been transferred. Furthermore, if you get caught ONCE at this level you are getting a MINIMUM 20-YEAR SENTENCE, and that is only if you decide to become a rat and cooperate with the DEA, etc. That has gotta suck to live every day of your life knowing that today may be the day your life essentially ends. Live hard, play hard....its inevitable, you fall hard, too.