OMG REALLY??? now where's that sarcastic emoticon...you arguments are faaaaaarrrrrr too rose..errr...red tinted....
Nothing Rosy about them at all except to say that I'm happy he did the bulk of his winning for Ferrari... Do you have a problem with that, I noticed your S/N has the word Scuderia in it? Other than that, he won what he won so lots of guys (whose teams he dominated) seem to resent the hell out of him for it but, then again, who ever resents the perennial back markers (who don't cause wrecks)? There, happy?
I need a little help sorting out my F1 perspective. I guess I'm a relative noob--I just started following the sport in the 70's--so a lot of this stuff is flying right over my head. From what I have been reading, there's apparently some sort of bell curve of credibility with regard to how many titles a driver wins. A lot of the one-timers (Rosberg, D. Hill, Villeneuve, etc.) are looked down upon as being fortunate, in the right place at the right time, almost unworthy Champions. On the flipside, it appears Michael Schumacher won too many titles and, as a result, is again deemed to have been the decade-long benefactor of superior machinery and, like the one-timers, in the right place at the right time. So, as best as I can tell, the ideal number of Championships would be 3-4. In fact, were I managing a driver, I would strongly encourage him to retire following his 3rd or 4th title--perhaps halfway through the season following his 3rd, to make it an optimum 3.5! This would forever seal his place in the hearts of all F1 fans worldwide.
Your thinking to hard Jack..If you can find something everyone agrees on, it's wrong. I'm knitting .. and last time I looked MS isn't driving for Ferrari anymore.. where the cars were designed to his tastes.
Your sarcasm aside you probably have hit the nail on the head there: A multiple WDC champion is certainly higher regarded. However when winning too many times, the story gets old and the driver makes too many enemies. Personally I don't want ever to see another driver exceeding 4 titles, ideally not 3. Simply because if that happens, it means that driver is dominating the sport and it becomes predictable and boring. So yes, 3.5 WDC is ideal. PS: Yes, I'm a big Alonso fan, but once he has won the title with Ferrari (his 3rd overall), I'll be happy to move my support elsewhere. 3 is enough.
Hows it going, last time I popped in your section you were up against it mate. Oh and tell your mate the Toro Rosso designer aint Adrian Newey. It's Ben Butler..
Good guess. But I'd also like to see Hami get a 2nd title. And I'm sure by then some new ace has joined that I'll be happy to watch grow.
Not a fair comparison by any stretch. Put them in their proper cars and in their era. Stuck and Mass would blow his doors off in a 956, Danner was pretty much relegated to F2 where he was VERY good. Now, let's put MS in with Stefan Bellof in his prime - I'm not so sure MS would be faster.
Flame suit on: I believe Lance takes drugs like the rest of them ... And yes any sport is ruined by total domination by one competitor or team. JT and MS made it even worse for their fans by not allowing a team mate to at least challenge and make the otherwise boring race interesting. But I'm very glad that Ferrari got a few WDC's again. Pete ps: While I agree with Tifosi12, I'd like Alonso to stay in the sport for as long as he can keep LH from winning another ... listening to our English mates whinge on will be too funny , and maybe the commentators might stop masturbating whenever his car is shown on their TV screen.
Lance won all those TDF's because he was extremely good at what he did.. AND his supporting cast (team doctors namely) was great at what they did as well
don't worry about the flame they ALL had (still do) access to the same 'tools', he was simply better at using them. agree with the JT MS deal--from a fan/sporting perspective..but from their biz side of things it made perfect cents
Since we're talking about this, here's Ross on Lewis from a few days ago: "He also wanted to prove himself at McLaren against the guy who is probably the fastest and most naturally talented in motor racing - Lewis Hamilton.
i tend to agree with that...but i wish he'd add what everyone is thinking..that if Lewis sorts out his racecraft...a more calm, collected drive...it would be devastating to the opponents... HOWEVER, it's his 'by the seat of his pants' "Maverick" style that makes him so entertaining
Don't know if you have seen this Dave, but to me he has always been that way. I would imagine if your a driver he is last person you want to see in your mirrors.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt_PJqM-sRc
A lot of the wind was taken out of my sails of F1 when he died. I was really hoping he could have gotten into a car like Senna did in 1984 with Toleman, but the only top-notch car(s) he could get into were the 956's and 962's. (Meaning: a car good enough to show a TOP team he was good, such as when Peter Warr at Lotus bought out Senna's Toleman contract). More wind was taken out when they banned turbos, and almost all of it that was left was taken when Senna died. I probably have not watched more than maybe 6 hours TOTAL of F1 races since that day in 1994.
