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  1. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    the owner's kid gets a free pass?

    noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

    :D
     
  2. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

    yes! and shame on the sanctioning body...seems that as charges were dismissed on a technicality, the incident seemingly did not happen in the eyes of grand am either.
     
  3. Latsyrc

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    What a disgrace. This part of the article really upsets me.

    "Citing case law, the judge said that as a "general principle," police officers from one jurisdiction have no "official power" to arrest an offender outside the boundaries of their municipality.""
     
  4. b-mak

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    I can't wait until the day I race Rolex and see what this dude is all about.

    Like golf, racing reveals one's character.
     
  5. ProCoach

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    I saw him at VIR a few weeks ago at a PCA event. He's not yet been seen at VIR this weekend even though he's listed as a driver with Action Express, the 24 Hour winners.
     
  6. Roots Mon

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    After witnessing J.C. France and his "posse" at the November
    Bella Maccina event at Daytona, all that may be said is what
    a bunch of low-lifes.

    RM
     
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  8. Papa G

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    He looks like a sh!tbag that's been filled way over it's allowable limit. Lucky sperm of the month club.
     
  9. ferraripete

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    so true!

    i am actually surprised that this thread had not drawn more comment from the members.
     
  10. GuyIncognito

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    maybe it proves just how pointless JC France and GrandAm as a whole has become.
     
  11. Gilles27

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    Good news for Jeremy Mayfield!
     
  12. ferraripete

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    chas, i honestly hope you are correct. i just wish the ama could get out from under the mob rules before they ruin motorcycle racing too!

    pcb
     
  13. Latsyrc

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    Ya I'm really debating on going to the MMP race this year now.
     
  14. b-mak

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    Really? From a driver's perspective, it's the most competitive game in North America.
     
  15. ProCoach

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    From the CTSCC (nee Koni) perspective, that is definitely true. Whether you're a fan or not.
     
  16. GuyIncognito

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    the playing field is very level, I will give you guys that (especially in the Koni series), but GrandAm/Daytona 24 just doesn't have the relevance to fans or manufacturers that it used to. It's a NASCAR sideshow and little more. they're doing the same thing to motorcycle road racing; turn it into NASCAR on two wheels.

    I genuinely believe that the France family involvement in road racing, two wheel or four, was just a Machiavellian attempt at removing competition for NASCAR. letting the black sheep of your family become a name driver with one of the better teams is a great way to do that.
     
  17. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

    this post is totally on point! you have it nailed. no argument about the koni series however...the formula was hatched with the firehawk series back in 1985. it was good then and it remains pretty good.

    john bishop really was the man, damn i miss the imsa days!!!
     
  18. Roots Mon

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    #19 Roots Mon, Apr 27, 2010
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    Any series such as GrandAM wherein the president
    states, "We don't care about traditional sports car fans"
    and, "We want to make the cars irrelevant" wouldn't
    seem worthy of any attention.

    RM
     
  19. Latsyrc

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    Are those actual quotes? Kinda scary if they are. :)
     
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    #21 Roots Mon, Apr 28, 2010
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    Yes sir, quotes not taken out of context by Roger Edmundson,
    czar of all things GrandAM.

    Roger Edmundson is on record saying: "I have said for some time
    that one of our goals is to make the cars almost irrelevant, so we can
    focus on the drivers."

    Roger Edmondson told AutoWeek: "We’re not concerned about tomorrow.
    We’re concerned about three years, five years from now. At the end of the
    day, if it’s going to be commercially viable, it has to have spectators. We
    want a car that appeals to the casual fan, the fan on the street. We’re not
    so concerned about the purist sports car fan."

    RM
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  21. Latsyrc

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    I guess he's just trying to make it appeal to more mainstream fans. I think if he's going to focus on the drivers, he may want to emphasize that they be a better example off track. Thanks for the quotes, it's eye opening. :)
     
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  23. Jack-the-lad

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    He's almost as ugly as a Grand Am car....
     
  24. Roots Mon

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    #25 Roots Mon, Apr 30, 2010
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    As noted on recent broadcasts of GrandAM races, the push
    to promote drivers "I Am GrandAM" far outweighs any mention
    of the cars, in fact the cars seem to be mere afterthoughts
    as there is rarely, if ever, mention of anything remotely
    technical.

    Sure, there are good drivers in GrandAM. Many accomplished
    in other forms of racing but at the recent Barbour event
    Scott Pruett was pronounced "The most accomplished sports
    car driver in history" (or something to that effect).

    So, are we to assume the history of sports car racing began
    with the advent of GrandAM? GrandAM starts coming off like
    politicians and their pundit ilk whom conveniently think history
    only began at the end of the last election cycle.

    Scott Pruett has been around a long time, accomplished in
    TransAM, GT and some real prototype racing (TWR Jaguar
    and Dyson Porsche come to mind). But to categorize Pruett
    as "Best Ever" is a bit of a reach; even Hurley Haywood
    (five 24 Hours of Daytona, two 12 Hours of Sebring, three
    24 Hours of Le Mans victories) must roll his eyes at that.

    NASCAR were embarrassed whenever their races occured on the same
    tracks as IMSA GTP/WSC as routinely, the sports cars even
    down to GT1 and GT2 cars were faster than NASCAR.

    NASCAR and the ISC couldn't handle that as, of course in
    their minds, NASCAR is the be-all, end-all of motorsport.

    Second, there was always a lot of stick between Bill France, Sr.
    and Sebring founder Alec Ullmann. This carried over to
    1997-98 when Andy Evans took over the Sebring lease,
    bought IMSA and started telling DIS how it was going to be
    done, even threatening to start an alternative stock car
    series to rival NASCAR.

    So, with the advent of GrandAM, NASCAR dumbed down
    the cars to the point where they would never be faster
    than NASCAR and they locked out the likes of Evans and
    Panoz from ever running the superior sports cars series
    on ISC tracks.

    Thus, Edmundson keeps on the narrative that the cars are
    irrelevant and traditional sports car fans don't matter. Is it
    working?

    RM
     

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