Spanish GP: Race ***Spoilers***

yeah, some have polarizing glasses on and only see good in anything that involves MS.

 

I have no problem with MS doing everything he can to win as long as it is legal. Lesson to Rosberg. Will be interesting to see if Merc runs two cars. If they only run one and Rosberg keeps losing to MS you can say there are no team orders but...

Proably too short to Monaco to run two cars by Thursay.

 

Merc will rund the old SWB car in Monaco anyway.

 

So that means Rosberg will beat Schumi again, no?

 

It's so unfair that MB are screwing MS to favor Nico! MS has earned the right to be treated equally... it's all Nico's fault for being such a bastard as to demand a car that is better for him and worse for MS!!!!!!!

Oh the iron knee!

 

Seriously? You don't think that mismanaging/using up tires would make them more prone to failure? If you'd notice, it let go on that long sweeper that puts a lot of heat in the left front...couple that with Hamilton's knack for destroying tires and one tends to wonder...

 

At this point no one knows what caused the failure but It was Hamilton's car that broke not Button's and Lewis has shown to be tougher on the hardware. I smell smoke...

 

I was wondering why Hamilton was pushing so hard at the end of the race...doing fastest laps and all....he was miles behind Webber. COULD he have overworked the tyre? All race they were commenting on the amount of work the left front tyre does at this track.

 

McLaren believes it was debris in the rim:
"I was just cruising the finish line, really. To catch up with Mark (Webber) was just impossible, really, but I'm absolutely blown away that something like that can happen in the last two laps - anyway, that's motor racing and you just have to keep your chin up."

"The symptoms that you can see are the rim braking, so to me at least - and its dangerous, making an early analysis - it's probably some debris in the rim or something like that, there were a lot of problems on the circuit today," Team Principal Martin Whitmarsh told the BBC.

 

Think about this though... "using up the tires" is about the tread and whether they blister. A catastrophic failure like Hamilton experienced is a failure of the carcass. The two are not related. We've seen lots of situations where one driver is trying to catch and pass another and they drive and drive until their tires are shot.

How many times in the past 10 years can you recall seeing someone lose a tire because they drove really hard? I can't remember a single such situation. Tires fail because drivers hit stuff on the track or come into contact with other cars, not because the driver "used them up".

 

Speed's new commentator Wes Gillet (Sp?) is pretty on the ball. A great addition.

Red Bulls speed was NOWHERE NEAR what it should have been compared to their low fuel quantity speed. I still say they had a ride height system.
Looks like fuel load is another great equalizer.

Hamiltons tire burst in slow mo looks like a tread seperation when a strand peeled off before it went Kablamo.

 

A huge failure like that is probably due to debris rather than wear.

 

Quite the contrary, I think. Because they are playing musical chairs with wins this year, all he needs is a race win to get back in the thick of things. He and Vettel are having a terrible time with luck this year. I think they are the two fastest drivers on the grid but have a bad habit of mucking up races this year, or have problems beyond their control. Still, I don't think either of them is out of the race for the WDC...not even close at this point.

 

+1...the rim doesn't tend to fall away from the car with a tire blow out. It seemed Lewis' entire front left fell apart instantaneously. That is consistent with rim failure. I guess we'll find out eventually.

My question would center more around whether or not they put the tire on properly at the pit. Remember he was complaining on the radio about how the car felt after the pit stop.

Good to see FA get the lucky break in an important home GP for him. He's still right there in the WDC race and he'll stay ahead of Button as long as it stays dry. If Red Bull can't get their stuff together then he has as good a chance as any of the top 6 to finish at the top.

 

So in the race, weren't Felipe's improved lap times after his tap with Chandhok technically the result of a movable aero device (the now broken front wing)? What's to stop teams from building pieces that are designed to break and act as such?

 

The FIA would put a stop to it immediately on safety grounds the second it became known what they were doing...

 

I think Wes Gillet was a stop gap solution. The new guy is Will Buxton if I remember right.

 

Excellent race by Webber.

Sutil continues to impress. Surprised he doesn't get more love.

 

you've been a Webber fan for some time .... I took a while to warm to him but he's like a lot of the F1 drivers, very good, and you put him in a good car and you will see results.

I see Webber and Button as the same while Vettel and LH alike, the old bulls Vs the young bulls, both Vettel and Hamilton over-drove their cars and paid the penalty, Button/Webber are smooth drivers and with fewer pitstops this will be a telling factor.

I thought Button in particular drove very smooth for his two wins

Sutil and Kubica are also alike, quiet achievers

 

Webbers secret to winning

** warning contains bad singing ***
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEq1MTjal7g&feature=player_embedded
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Outstanding drive today by MS to show that he can still compete with the big dogs.

Phenomenal drive by Vettel to nurse it many laps to the end with low/no brakes and still finished on the podium!

Webber put in a great performance from flag-to-flag. Never put a wheel wrong all race. Just peeled off the laps. Well deserved win.

Alonso and Button thinking long term and racking up points.

I feel sorry for Hamilton's race to end in that manner. You never want to see anyone crash...Senna(94) and Villeneuve(82) died in May on different years...when you think of the many great drivers we have lost before their time due to crashes, it is truly saddening...Ascari, Clark, Senna, Villeneuve, von Trips, Bandini (horrible death), Rindt, etc. I cannot fathom anyone wanting a driver to endure a crash with the possibility of death or crippling injury (Donnelly, Regazzoni)...

Frank

 

One thing that pissed me off was Buxtons comment about Ferrari being allowed to make some engine reliability modifications, typical **** comment imho.

 

+1...that was a tasteless comment.

 

I just had a feeling that was going to be brought up.

 

Yes thats the guy.
He did a really good job.
Other than the Ferrari comment.
Those will have to go.