360 engine shut off

Yes. Twice with my 360. Both times while in 2nd gear, both times when driving at very low rates of speed and both times while turning into a driveway.

I could do nothing to get the car to start and felt pretty stupid stalling an F1-equipped car.

Mine started in just a few minutes... but given the location and circumstance (and of course a bright red Ferrari stuck in the middle of a driveway), it felt considerably longer.

Never knew why, and thankfully it only happened those two times.

My 360 was model year 2000.

 

This has happened to me several times in my 2002 360 F1. It has ALWAYS happened in the most embarrassing possible situations - a busy intersection, a narrow street with lots of traffic, an area with a ton of camera happy pedestrians. The red F1 warning light comes on and beeps when it happens and the engine shuts down. You can do nothing other than wait for 10 minutes to 30 minutes and try to restart it. It's stupid and I have almost traded the thing in a few times for a Lamborghini because of it. Thousands of dollars worth of service have been done on it (the vast majority under warranty fortunately) and it would still happen on occasion. The "fix" seems to be to always make sure you are in first gear when driving very slowly up an incline. If I am stopping at a light on a slope or in stop and go traffic that is on a bit of a hill, I always come to a complete stop to let the car automatically downshift to first gear, then I drive forward. So, I think this problem can be fixed by just coming to a complete stop or downshifting manually to first gear before creeping slowly up a slight incline. It's worked so far!

As a side note - I wish Ferrari would change the way their cars respond to perceived problems. It is dangerous to just shut down a car or not allow you to change gears. I have had other issues with this car (like the engine hood latch sensor not working) that has caused the car to just go to Neutral and not let you drive it! Very dangerous and once again happened to me in a very busy intersection that required the help of people to push me. (The guy who helped push me was a "former" Ferrari owner who was sympathetic!)

 

thanks for the info

more reinforcement of my idea to get a 6 spd

 

I have never heard anyone say not to shift into 1st. Do you recall where you heard or read that? I rarely shift it down manually, I usually just slow it down and wait for the car to downshift automatically. I think the big thing is to not press the gas pedal when it's cruising along in 2nd and you feel that it will downshift on you. It's almost like it stalls when you press the gas at the same moment it shifts down from 2nd to 1st. I think that's the key!

 

It's not that you can't downshift into 1st, you can... but I've found the car knows when it needs 1st better than I do. Sometimes a 2nd-to-1st downshift makes the car "buck" pretty bad.

The stalling behavior is weird and I'm happy to say my F430 and my Gallardo have never done this.

 

This is unbelievable, but just when I thought I had it all figured out, my 2002 360 F1 stopped for good in the middle of the highway in stop and go traffic causing a major traffic backup. The car dropped to "N" and the red F1 warning light came up and it would not shift to any gear for me. I sat in the middle of the freeway for about 5 minutes, restarting the car multiple times. Eventually, the car shifted to 1st and I accelerated off the freeway via the nearest exit ramp. When the tow truck arrived, it wouldn't shift into 1st again, so it needed to be pulled up onto the flatbed rather than driven up. As soon as this car is "fixed", it's going on the market and I'm getting a Lamborghini instead. I've had enough! (FYI: a new clutch was installed last year and about $15,000 of servicing was done on the vehicle while under its extended warranty - the car was in the shop for nearly 6 weeks while they tested every part of it to see what could be causing the F1 problems.)

 

It is designed to do that to prevent a serious, damaging malfunction but an F1 initiated shutdown is preceded by a warning. You may not have known what it was but it did warn you.

99% of the serious malfunctions that take place with F1 systems are preceded by warning signs that get ignored or shrugged off as a "Glitch". Also F1 malfunctions are just not that hard to diagnose by anyone up to speed on how they work.

Your story is not an unusual one and can be resolved by someone who knows what they are doing.

 

Could it be a worn F1 relay causing it ? have read a tread that this will give a F1 warning and shut down the car for safety reason.

 

They've replaced that, along with most everything else. I notice that the head lamps flicker on start up and sometimes turn off for a bit and then on again, so it may be an electrical issue? (This is a Canadian vehicle - former USA one - so it has daytime running lights now). I noticed in the car history that it went in for "electrical servicing" in its first 6 months, so this car may be a lemon I fear.

 

Sorry to revive an old thread, but I just had this happen to me as well. F1 pump relay replaced about 3 months/500 miles ago during my major.

Similar instance to the above posters. Driving through a neighborhood, mostly second gear, pulled into a slightly inclined entrance to a parking lot and it just shut off. Alarms, F1 light, got stuck in 1st and couldn’t get it back to neutral to even move it. Checked all fuses, and they were fine. Might have been in the time I was trying to figure it out that the clutch had a chance to cool off. Fluids good. Eventually let me shift back to neutral and it fired right up with no lights and got me home.

Anyone else ever get to the root cause on this?

 

Hey, any update on this issue with your 360? Did you solve the problem? If so, what was it determined to be from? This has happened to my 360 numerous times and I really wish I knew what the problem is from and why the F430s do not suffer this "engine shutoff" problem. What did Ferrari change from the 360 to the F430 that eliminated the problem? Any ideas? Or does it happen on the F430 as well?

 

It’s never happened again since that day. I do now drop to first or even neutral going in those ramps. I suspect it had something to do with the downshift at the wrong time, but nothing conclusive.