612 prices once new 2011 comes to market

FML is probably a better resource, as most Ferraris end up there at some point and VINs are required-- so you're not seeing the same car over and over again.

In the current issue, there are 5 612s-- 2 2008s and 3 2005s. There are 9 599s.

Get this, though-- there are 44 430s (not counting 7 Scuderias and 2 16Ms).

 

but how many people are looking for 612s?

how many 612s were built vs 599s year by year?

There are less 612 buyers than 599 buyers in my opinion.

 

There were many fewer 612s built each year compared with 599s. The 612 production line was only about half the size. However, the 612 has been around longer than the 599, so the total number of 612s produced, while probably less than the total number of 599s produced, may not be as low as one might think.

Either way, I agree-- there are fewer 612 buyers, and fortunately, fewer 612s!

 

Good question - Ferrari is asking a lot from their customers at mid 300's, a nice 458 is in the low 300's. Scary territory for sure!

 

Historically the 2+2 have bottomed out at roughly 25% of MSRP for a normal used car with perhaps 30-40k miles. I see no reason to think the 612 wouldn't do the same, so call it $65k for a typical example.

Unlike the prior cars though, the F1 transmission may be a turnoff to potential buyers. It certainly has tanked values of the Quattroporte in just a handful of model years.

 

612's are 125 - 175

599's are 225 - 325

People can drive a 612 as a dd - I think you will see 612 owners turning the odometers to
mid ten digits, justifying depreciation.

 

interesting I had no idea

 

I happen to love and appreciate the design of the 612 as well. As I am sure many of you have noticed (and probably pointed out on F-Chat in the past) the 612 takes many of its design cues from the 375MM (Ingrid Bergman)...this is a common oversight by many skeptics. Preaching to the choir here, but it is simply a gorgeous design. I am actually rather happy that it is not for everyone. Sure am anxious to see what happens to the price when the 2011 gets here.

 

Cars.com and Autotrader.com had pretty much the same 26-27 612s listed, several of which were, of course, also on ebay. Lowest asking price around $100K for a 2005 with 30K+ miles. Aesthetics are very personal, of course. I really like the 612, but my Porsche-owning brother thought my 456M was better looking.

 

Not to the potential buyer that's looking for one. Although the F1 tranny may be the choice for most 612 buyers there's still a segment of the market that prefers the rare and more sporting 3rd pedal even in the GT. Not sure it commands any premium at this time however, I also don't see a depressed market value vs. the F1 either. And talk about rare, how'bout a 3 pedal 612 with GTC package!

 

I have a two pedal GTC package and love it, three pedal very cool too.

This is my first Ferrari and the first time I kept a weekend / dd car over a year in a long long long time. The F1 vs the stick was a road Ferrari shouldhave never closed. THey could have just charged out the wazzooo like everything else.

 

I intentionally bought a 6 speed with the GTS package because it is pretty rare, will be easier to maintain in the long run, it is a classic combination, and I will never be frustrated with a "slow" F1 vs. the ongoing improvements in F1 shifting technology. A manual will always be a manual, if you know what I mean.

 

$160k ?? Wow.

I just checked what offers are on cars.com. Most between $225-245k for 08 cars. So does it mean the real market is so much off the advertised prices??

 

Aren't new 612's available as special/positive order only these days? If so, I wouldn't expect to see many in the pipeline, other than the odd one out at an occasional dealership.

 

Fortunately(for Ferrari), with the Euro down a lot vs. the $$$, profitability in the U.S. should be up, so they will likely have more flexibility in pricing new models over the next couple of years. Of course, whether Ferrari will act upon this is anyone's guess - they are based in Italy, aren't they?

 

I hope their future profits are not relying on the forecast of currency exchange rates. That works both ways when you are a global enterprise. You are correct in it should help the US buyers. A daily driver 612 at 350k will be really hard to swallow - when they drop 20 -30 % the first two years - jus sayin that the 612 lends itself to a dd type owner.

 

Unfortunately and undeservedly, GT2+2 F cars have always depreciated at a rapid rate. Sub 100 is inevitable but next year, who knows?

Can't go wrong with a 612 though, they're cool as hell!

 

Agree - but I also understand it is not going to evolve to a classic ferrari. The 612 IMO broke the barrier but time will tell.

 

The 160K offer is obviously wholesale and like all of us dealers are in business to make money. However, advertised prices are just that and typically have little baring on the actual market. Do you homework prior to purchase and play hardball when the games on.

 

Here are a couple 05's

03/10/09 W PALM Lease $105,000 13,771 Avg BEIGE 12G P No
05/27/09 NADE Lease $123,000 8,102 Avg BLUE 12G A No

 

I have been looking hard in the past few weeks to buy a 612. Per my comments you can buy them under $100K now. They are great cars and will be hit even harder by the new 612.

2005 F-1 w/15K miles $108K
2006 GTC w/9K miles $140K

These are asking, not sold. Most have had the cars for 3-6 months.

 

2005 F-1 w/15K miles $108K
2006 GTC w/9K miles $140K



To be fair, without information about condition and all important color combinations, naked price data like this isn't that helpful.

 

Sorry--both are black one with tan interior/ other had brdx interior..

 

Hi all. I just saw a black/black 2005 612 sell on Ebay for $85000. Granted it was a high mileage car (35000) but it looks like that is going to start lowering the bar for others.