The official replica/re-creation thread

He currently has a gte body on ebay with all of his contact info

 

This - uh, thing - was at the (otherwise) all-Italian "Concourso Italiano / Automezzi" show here in Lakewood today. I don't know how he got let in.
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That's about the nicest GTO recreation I've seen from the pics. Door handles look good. It has a trunk, not a hatchback. Gas cap is in the right place. Someone actually tried to do a good job. Not the usual Z we see.

 

YUK

 

Why wouldn't they let a Ferrari F40 in ?? LOL Mind you I have seen worse.

 

Actually, it was supposed to resemble an F50. And they DID let him in. . . even though he was straight up about what it was (as if he needed to tell anyone.)

I actually saw an F40 re-creation on a Fiero once that looked quite good from the outside. But in the end, it's still a Fiero.

I have a few opinions about replica cars:

1. If you want to re-body a car, do something original. Don't try to make it look like a Ferrari or anything else that it's not.

2. If you do decide to copy a Ferrari, do a good job.

3. Don't put Ferrari badges on it. Even if it IS good.

4. Misrepresenting something as a Ferrari that is not a Ferrari should be a felony.

5. Don't come to the Italian concours with a replica that has nothing Italian in it. I don't bring my Ferrari to kit car shows. . . so please reciprocate!

 

if i had my way ,there would be no replica/fakes on this section of the forum.

 

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Pete

 

The purpose of this thread was to put the fakes in it, with chassis- and engine numbers, so we have a place to find/identify them for future reference.

In that sense it would keep the'vintage' fakes in one place and we wouldn't have the pseudo-GTO's and TR's scattered all over the vintage sub-forum. I listed it as suchquite some time ago, and it subsequently was merged with other threads and went 'somewhat' astray.

For the crappy replica's on Fiero's etc there is a thread in the general automotive discussion.

I believe the original intention was good and useful, and could keep the topics in Vintage clean.

Best
Jack.

 

True replica...chassi, brakes, brake discs, gearbox, screen, scoop, body panels, gauges etc, etc. All is not yet showing.

A replica hasn't been made in almost 25 years.

Is it a beauty or a beast?
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If it caused the destruction of an original old car then it is a beast ...

Pete

 

Looking interesting Alex.

Any more pictures, details?

 

I know how he could do it !
I've been told that there were the guys of "Ferrari Classiche" at the door... LOL

Ciao

Andrea

 

Since only two original cars survived and Ferrari built a recreation of no 0005, I can promise that no original car has been scrapped for this. Unfortunately not many original 1960 parts are available, but with substantial researchs and with help from the right people, new full original specs parts can be made.
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There is a 250 GTO replica being sold here in FerrariAds. $395k. Another 330 GT is gone forever. Sad.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=4424

 

Where did the engine and gearbox come from?

Pete

 

True.. however that is a very good replica (not that I condone such a thing.. but the 330 has been gone for 25 years at this point).

 

Here is a really good one:
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I think 3 original 1960 cars survived: 1. the Italian GP winner, later fitted with a V12 engine but now with a V6 and owned by Tony Smith; 2. the 'Biscaretti' car which for years didn't have a body but now does; 3. the car owned for some time by Bamford and then Obrist, now by Ecclestone.

Bamford also had several spare engines and transmissions, around which the first two replica cars were built by Graypaul. Then there was a car built in Australia in 1985 by Ian or Sam Johnson using a road dino engine - I have no more information than that.

Bob Houghton has built at least one replica (maybe two), the first one being for Obrist: I don't know which this is:
http://www.hallandhall.net/stock.asp?StockID=1350

And there is a replica of a 1959-type car built around a Fiat Dino engine, which is the only original or replica Dino I know of which is NOT a 1960 type! (unless there are still more out there)

None of the 1957-58-59 cars survived, and the only replica of an early type was a glassfibre-bodied car with a Ford (!) V6 engine made for a film which was cancelled.

Paul M

 

Two, the second one wasn't completed until 2006. Privately owned.

 

Why change the engine back?. Isn't that the car that was crashed at Goodwood a couple of years ago when a v12, and also that is the car that was in NZ with a Morris Minor body on it?.
Pete

 

I believe that chassi no 0005 that was at the Biscaretti Museum was a recreation made by Ferrari. What they also did was tidying up the welds so that the less than perfect welds that are visible on the originals wouldn't show. I don't now who owns the 0005, but Tony Smith owns the 0788 (Tasman Dino) and Mr Ecclestone is the current owner of no 0003.

My enginge and gearbox are manufactured new, as many parts unfortunately have to be. However it helps reliability as materials and tolerances nowadays are much better. Bob Houghton made two replicas, one for sale at Hall and Hall, the other I do not know who owns. I believe that there are 4 replicas out there - two made for Sir Anthony Bamford (recreations around original engines and gearboxes) and the two that Bob Houghton made. I believe that two replicas were long wheel base and two short. I'm building a long wheel base.

I've managed to acquire a chassi jig based on 0788 along with a few hundred pictures.

The car is expected to be completed in August and I'll post some more pictures of the end result.

 

Has anyone heard about this company yet?

http://www.automobileaddiction.com

Has his cars made in Hong Kong and has a sales office in New Jersey. Looks alot like the CalSpyder but you can get the car body painted, upholstered, and wired for $23K.
With a used Mustang 5.0 for engine, tranny, rear-end and some suspension and brake parts, you could have a finished car for $35-40K.

The two things that are a little off are the windshield and of course the wheels. Dayton will make a set of alloy rimmed knock-offs for $750 ea. Then you still need to get a correct tire.

Anyway, what are everyone's thoughts.
I know that the Cal Spyder by Renucci is another option, but they want $75-90K for a complete car.
This one looks like a fun winter project and, if built well, you should be able to recoup your parts investment (but maybe not your time).

Charlie

 

I know that this is supposed to be the replica thread but this doesn't look very impressive at all. For that money you can own a real Ferrari 308 or 328 and, if you hanker for a V12, could buy a nice 400i 5 speed and maybe even have some spare change in your pocket.

All of these models are the real deal and I will guarantee that they will sound much, much better than a Mustang V8 and will provide a lot more satisfaction of ownership.

Just my 2 cents worth.

 

Frankly, I think this might be one of those manufacturers that doesn't actually manufacture anything... also known as a scam.

The CalSpyder is a well built car, and you can assemble and finish it yourself for a lot less than $75K

Shiny Side Up!
Bill