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  1. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    http://pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_feature_item.php?fes_art_id=41038 - the link
     
  2. parkerfe

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    I would suspect that the design and construction of such a new F1 track would be done by companies with experience in such endeavors and may come from outside the Austin area...maybe even outside of the USA. In that event,other than maybe the property sale and permits, the locals would not even know until ground is broken...
     
  3. WCH

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  4. VIZSLA

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  5. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Developers and promoters share a common mindset, in that way.......

    The other thing they always are in need of, is the investors, they rarely have much of a stake in the 'dream' they are selling............note the way they were pimping Tilke's reputation in their previous Track Country Club......
     
  6. parkerfe

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    Why...it is a product?
     
  7. RP

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    Now you are talking like an attorney.
     
  8. Stackhouse

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    This is a very interesting project, with very real potential and some large money behind it. I have reviewed the prospectus, seen the track layout, proposed location and builder/designer. I cannot comment on specifics due to confidentiality agreement, but I agree with many here that this project is a very high risk venture with a small window of opportunity.
     
  9. BigTex

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    So is space flight, and we do that, every day!!!! :D :D :D

    Paving over some cow pasture, that's a walk in the Park!!!!
     
  10. BigTex

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    Making a PROFIT on any of it, is a somewhat finer point.....LOL!
     
  11. Stackhouse

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    Bernie will find a way to make it a non profit venture lol

    ;)
     
  12. BigTex

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    It'll be a fine party, either way!!!

    Congrats on your engagement, brudda ........she looks a sweet one!!!
     
  13. parkerfe

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    Well, you sure can't make a venture like this succeed thinking like a fan, i.e., fanatic!
     
  14. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Well in this case everyone seems to be taking at least a sip of the Kool-Aid
     
  15. texasmr2

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    As long as its strawberry flavored and not Guyana Punch.
     
  16. VIZSLA

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    Got you "Jonesin'" do I?
     
  17. texasmr2

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    Nah I just thought the Kool Aid reference was cool.
     
  18. VIZSLA

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    And not the "Jonesin'" one?
     
  19. texasmr2

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    That one aswell.
     
  20. iamthesimpleone

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    read this in the paper today:

    Bastrop County commissioners unanimously approved incentives Monday for a proposed $150 million private airport and business complex in the western part of the county.

    The county would refund 75 percent of county property taxes for the proposed airport over 30 years as part of an agreement with the project's developer.

    The airport is far from a done deal — parts of the project still must be approved by the county and federal regulators — but the commissioners' incentive offer is a significant step.

    "This was done with the taxpayers' concerns in front of it," said Lee Dildy, commissioner of Precinct 4, where the proposed site of the airport is located. "Both sides acted in good faith. I feel very comfortable with this agreement."

    Dildy said public money will not be used to build the airport and related improvements.

    Jim Carpenter, managing partner of Central Texas Airport LLC, the would-be developer of the airport, said, "The Central Texas Airport completes the missing infrastructure asset that was needed for Central Texas." Carpenter began discussions with the county on the project at least a year ago.

    He said the airport would help fill a need when an annual Formula One race comes to Austin, scheduled to begin in 2012.

    "Formula One will bring a tremendous demand for aviation," he said.

    The proposed airport now includes plans for a 7,200-foot runway on about 1,100 acres, and will be for private chartered aircraft and business jets. According to the agreement, the airport cannot be a general commercial airport.

    Some people who live near the proposed site are concerned about airport noise, flight patterns, declining property values and how the airport will be used.

    "We are not happy about the proposed airport. We are not happy about the approval of this agreement," said Catherine Roberts, who lives south of the site and is president of the homeowners association for the River Crossing subdivision. "We just really hope this won't come to fruition."

    The agreement pertains only to the first phase of the project, which county documents show includes the runway, 250,000 square feet of hangar space, a fuel farm, fire-and-rescue facilities and commercial development.

    Under the agreement, construction of the first phase of the airport project would begin no later than June 30, 2012, and be finished no later than June 30, 2014.

    Currently, the county receives about $4,000 in property taxes per year from the property, which is now agricultural land, proposed for the airport, county staff said.

    The value of one-quarter of the property — the amount taxed under the agreement — would be significantly higher, according to county staff.

    The county still must approve construction plans and the Federal Emergency Management Agency must approve changes to a flood plain on the property, which would need to be moved for the project.

    Carpenter said he was waiting for the incentive agreement before proceeding with buying the property, but said Monday that he would go forward.

    He said his company hopes to start construction before the end of the year and complete work by the end of 2011 or early 2012.

    Aircraft maintenance services and green businesses are part of the overall airport plans, Carpenter said.

    [email protected]; 445-3616

    http://www.statesman.com/news/local/bastrop-commissioners-approve-incentives-for-airport-747636.html
     
  21. BigTex

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    Hmmm....this Jim Carpenter "developer guy" has some bad ink in the past in Austin area real estate........

    Google him and a flurry of legal activities come up from some of his "failed projects" from the investor side.......

    Note to Tavio:

    Start with a team that doesn't contain such readily tracable 'issues".......
     
  22. VIZSLA

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    Is the fact that this isn't being flogged continually a positive development?
    In F1 the relationship between hype and reality tends to be inverse ;)
     
  23. BigTex

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    Well, it's gonna be hard to make the deadline, working on it part time, at night, and on the weekends.....:D :D :D

    Depending on where it hits the calendar in 2012, that's about 18 - 24 months.

    Now we can rent some bleachers and porta cans, and put it downtown in 6 months time!

    It'll be like the '60s, where haybales worked, for crashing vehicles.....
     
  24. BigTex

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    Maybe an overseas contractor is gonna hit town, flex it's BIG muscle, and show all the Old Boys here how to pave concrete!!!

    Watch out, TX DOT!!!! LOL!
     
  25. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Sounds like you think they're not saying anything because there isn't anything to say.
    Too bad
     

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