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Why a liter of fuel for testing?

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  1. sambomydog

    sambomydog Guest

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    Does anyone have any idea as to why a liter is needed for testing? Thats such an awful lot of fluid just to stick a syringe into for testing. Why a liter, thats 3-4 cup fulls!!
    I wont hold my breath for an answer, but i thought i would ask it anyway:) Any ideas?
     
  2. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    Well they use 1.25 mL for the fuel test. then they keep a back-up sample 1.25 mL.

    That leaves 998.5 mL left over. That is put into Bernie's motor home fuel tank.

    Money's tight these days...
     
  3. ms.gto

    ms.gto Formula Junior

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    shell website/ferrari will explain all you need to know..
     
  4. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Cripes. Now they're Pi** testing the cars too?

    :)
     
  5. sambomydog

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    #5 sambomydog, Jun 13, 2010
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    Oh i see:)
    I have already looked on that site, but cant see any were, why they need a liter. http://www.search.shell.com
    Clearly you have, so would you be good enough to link it for me :)
     
  6. opus10583

    opus10583 Formula 3

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    So you don't know either? The Shell site is silent on the subject.

    In the early 2000s the sample cans were about the size of a tuna can, ~75-100ml, a liter seems far beyond anything reasonable given the meager sample required.

    From the FIA tech regs:

    6.6.2 Competitors must ensure that a one litre sample of fuel may be taken from the car at any time during the Event.

    But there's no reasoned justification.
     
  7. sambomydog

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    Now that's a comprehensive answer, i like that :)
     
  8. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    "The rules are the rules"...... ;)

    Maybe, if there was only a few mL left, they could claim "contamination" (from the bladder etc?)

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  9. opus10583

    opus10583 Formula 3

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    On reflection, it's possible the fuel could be engineered to stratify, thus leaving a less dense and therefore compliant fraction in a tank that's been run to "dry", or maybe it's to prevent another collector cheat?
     
  10. LightGuy

    LightGuy Four Time F1 World Champ
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    The correct answer.
     

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