Lamborghini V10 Diesel

Hard to argue with that.

 

Heck Yeah. My Dad has the new VW Touareg Tdi and it is a new day for diesels, just an awesome motor. Much better suited to street driving with so much power available in the lower RPM's.

 

NOTHING is holy these days.


Porsche with SUV's
Ferrari with hybrids and no more manual gears
Aston with fugly city car


I want to cry. I really, really do.

 

I drive a Jetta Sportwagen TDI as my daily driver and the engine is just fantastic for such a small displacement motor. It's quick, smooth, and quiet. I would have no problem with Lambo using VAG's TDI technology to make a high performance engine

 

I don't see problem, after all Lamborghini started with tracktor engines.

Ferrari will also make diesel engine one day... but Porsche starts making delivery vans before that hapens, as today they make SUV- and sedan models.

seriously Ferrari will skip diesel and will go hybrids.

 

Sure I would. Have you seen how fast some of the diesel full size trucks can be made to run?

 

Why not? And don't forget that Audi just won 1-2-3 at LeMans with TDI race cars.. And being in the family, it's easy technological transfer.

Philippe
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no

they are great engines but to me lambo = sport car
and sport cars = nice engine noise and a lot of revs

i like diesel on city cars, sedans, SUV , off roaders, pick ups...and more
the only kind of car i would never want a diesel engine is a sport car (2 seater or 2+2)

....so no diesel engine

 

how someone can compare Lamborghini to Porsche ? speaking about production figures it's about 50 times difference. Porsche must satisfy people's expectations with an Audi/VW TDi engine. Lamborghini not and has just to target the "cream" of weathly drivers willing to rev' their engine in leisure time... not in everyday habits.

 

This thread clearly shows a difference between the Euro guys and US guys. Here in Europe diesels are considered strictly for everyday use cars.

Talking about diesel engines and supercars here is like cursing in church. Audi is trying to change the game but the whole damn point of a diesel car vanishes in the fact that the diesel R8 costs as much as the petrol one and consumes as much gas too. But for a daily car it's different because a strong diesel engine is ideal for trucks (for towing etc.).

Makes no sense to have a diesel supercar. And diesel engines (today) are turboed so they have a long way to go before they come up with an engine that runs on diesel but doesn't have huge lag.

Torque is the ONLY positive aspect I can think of for diesel engines. But it's not like todays V10/V12 cars are lacking that either, and they are just so much more responsive and have a much punchier power delivery.

Please, keep the diesel engines away from Lamborghini (and Ferrari).

 

What about electric? Haha. Nope, no can do.

 

As much as I love diesels they shouldn't be in a Lamborghini.

HOWEVER Audi should have built the R8 V12 TDI!!!!!!

 

Your entire post, signature included, make it difficult not to tear up a bit. Truly, we have reached the end of a great era...

 

Agreed.

 

Diesel engines is for tractors! Not for sportscars.. Its as simple as that..

 

They already had Diesels in the 50's, so there would be nothing wrong with them going back to their roots

 

I'll quote the following to invalidate the above:

 

And I repeat:

The TDI R8 from Audi almost consumes as much fuel as the petrol cars and that's why the whole point is missing with diesel in supercars. There are HUNDREDS of reasons why Audi won. It is too naive to think that diesel was the sole aspect of their flawless victory.

And the diesels for public roads ARE NO WHERE NEAR the petrol engines in terms of engine response, engine revs (go buy Toyota if you don't like revving).

And who on earth is doing 24 hours races on public roads!??

 

and cars that want to finish First at Le Mans.

900 ft lbs of Torque.

Yeah Baby.

 

Here's two sides of the coin - Our tow vehicle is a Dodge Ram with the 6.7 cummins diesel. It was recently enlarged to satisfy the 'need' for 390+ hp and 500+ lbs of torque. Mileage is on par with a gas motor, maybe a little better. It will spin the tires on a 7,800lb truck! (The earlier 5.9 version was smaller, plenty of torque but less hp, and got 50-60% better mileage and still got the job done...So much for refinement)

When I was in Europe last year I had the opportunity to drive an A4 avant 2.0TDI. In the mountains of Gernamy & Austria it was a wonderful motor, revving quickly, pulling strong and it sounded good too...Oh, and I got the equivalent of about 30-32mpg from it, without babying it. Had that model been available here in the states, I would have bought one...

So I think the technology is there to build an 'exotic' engine. And according to Audi they're just on the cusp on diesel development. So yeah, I'd be excited.

 

^ Exactly. For daily driving the diesels are superb. It's a shame the American market isn't responding that good to diesel engines, because that would accelerate the development even more. I did 720 miles on a 2.5 Volvo V70 on a single tank (80 litres) with car full of passengers and luggage last year...

Diesel engines let out a lot less CO2 too. In Europe you can have BlueMotion Volkswagen Golf which is on par (perhaps even better?) with the Prius.

Audi A8 comes with a 4.2 V8 diesel engine which you read about here:
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/57856/audi_a8.html
For this kind of daily driver, diesel is best. Almost S8 performance but half the fuel consumption while cruising around. Racing/fun; doesn't come close to petrol engine.

 

Yeah, don't me get started on americans and diesels. I think our attitude is very behind the times. For years, our industrial diesels in trucks/buses were dirty and loud, and most people's idea of diesels hasn't evolved. Also the slow oil burning benzes from the 70's created a stereotype that has outlasted the cars.

How is it that VW can make a world record 96mpg diesel compact car, or the 50+mpg Jetta TDi that's available here in the states, and it doesn't get people's attention?

Then there's the 20% price penalty on diesel. Just as diesel cars started to catch on a little, diesel jumped and in the case of our Dodge Ram, the extra efficiency of the diesel is canceled out by the increased fuel cost...

That's my rant for today!

 

Audi already tried this with the Q7, the only downside is that it's only available in the U.K. Man an R8 with this engine would be insane.

Q7 v12 on Top Gear:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlqBn9pzETw

 

I personally don't care what kind of engine is in it so long as it's a good one. As for diesel not being suitable for am exotic, pft. Everyone was drooling over the V12 TDI R8 concept. I'm pretty sure everyone would opt for an R15 engine in their Lamborghini over the standard V12.