I'll let Peloton25 chime in for the answer to that; but i'll keep laughing while you do some research on the McLaren F1 LM. (or gtr version; he'll fill in the details i'm sure)
It's a GTR, 16R, ran in FINA colours at Le Mans 1996 by Team Bigazzi. I'd wager it's more effective than the F40's rear wing...(of course I don't actually know)
Personally I'm a huge fan of originality and therefore would love to see all the GTR's still in their racing liveries, but yeah they look incredible in Papaya Orange like the LM's (save perhaps for the fact they tend to confuse people into thinking they're LM's instead of GTR's ) IIRC, there are five GTR's that have this look and they should be as follows: #07R - ex Jacadi liveried car from 1995 #08R - ex Gulf liveried car from 1995 #11R - ex Frank Muller liveried car from 1996 #14R - ex LARK liveried car from 1996 #16R - ex FINA liveried car from 1996 Of course I'm sure Erik will be in here soon enough and he'll be able to clarify and explain far better than I can
Where the hell have I been? This thread has occupied my entire afternoon. I can't believe I've missed it for this long. I've been a cerified car-nut-weirdo/freak since I was 10 (30 years ago). Ferraris, Porsches, Lambos.........I love most of them. There are 3 specific cars that I'm head over heels for though: Porsche 993 (I own 2), Ferrari 288 GTO (the most beautiful car ever produced IMHO), and the Mclaren F1. This thread is FULL of interesting info on all things F1. The prototypes, the racers, the evolution of specific chassis.......AWESOME! My personal favourites? 008, 036, 051, 071 (this being #1 in my book), and ANY LM (particularly the 2 special black Brunei cars). I was fortunate enough to travel Europe in November 95 for what amounted to an automotive orgy. Mclaren "factory" tour on my 26th birthday, Ferrari UK HQ, Talacrest, Mclaren showroom on Parklane, Porsche factory, and a week @ Paul Ricard in single seaters. The Mclaren tour was truly memorable with several cars in build bearing chassis #s in the low 40s as well as something very special: XP1 LM! The car itself was the only one covered during my visit. When I asked why I was told simply that the car had some unique features. The giveaway? The Papaya Orange front clip resting against the wall. It was only when I saw the Autocar article several weeks later that I realized what I'd been standing next to. Erik, the information you've presented here is breathtaking, thankyou. I've got many questions about this car and related items. Here's a couple: 1. "CAR" ran an article on the F1 LM in late 99. The last page of the article showed the then-new "Driving Ambition" book (I have 3 copies). They stated that there would be two versions of this book, one being significantly larger (400pages) than the original. Any truth to this? 2. 014, the used-to-be-yellow ex-Brunei car, is this the only F1 originally bought by the Brunei family to leave their possession? (Sorry if this was covered already, it's been a long afternoon of reading.) Again, AWESOME thread. Has anyone considered running a sequential list of chassis #s with pictures of the cars (then and now as so many seem to have been altered)?
Hey Timothy - glad you found the thread. It has been a good discussion so far. McLaren did produce multiple versions of "Driving Ambition". The retail version has 272 pages and then the other three versions have 407 pages. I don't happen to own a copy of the larger version myself, but have been told that the additional pages simply include more photos. The text from all four versions is supposedly identical. I've not been able to compare on my own, but have heard this more than once. The three special versions were the Limited Edition, Owners Edition and finally the Le Mans edition. It is my understanding that they printed 1000 copies of the Limited Edition, assume another ~100 of the Owner's Edition, and then they used 59 left over copies of the Limited Edition version to create the Le Mans edition. Here's a description of the Le Mans Edition which seems to confirm that theory: The Le Mans edition differed from the Owner's and Limited Editions with the inclusion of the 10th Anniversary lapel badge, the ''Total Domination'' artwork, and the "Mclaren At Le Mans'' DVD. The Owner's Edition had a chassis plate engraved to match the owner's F1. The rest of it was identical to the Limited Edition from my understanding. Below are some photos of the Le Mans version. The DVD is in the case with the '59' on the front. = = = = = As for #014, yes - it is the only F1 known to have escaped from the Brunei collection. 7 of the 10 F1s they had remain there, at least as of last year when someone got in and had a look around. That leaves two F1s from their collection that are 'missing' - chassis #004 and #005 - but one of those was supposedly written off in an accident by one of the mechanics who worked in Brunei taking care of the collection. The other one may be in Monaco. >8^) ER Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Great info. Now I NEED to find a copy of the "Limited Edition" book. More pictures would be exactly what the book needed. The only criticism I could make of the original version was the small number of pictures, particularly the road version(s). I've also followed your link to the PH site. Looks like I'll be up all night reading!
I can DEFINITELY recommend the Le Mans Commemorative Edition of Driving Ambition! They took 59 out of the run of 1,000 Limited Edition Driving Ambition's to make the Le Mans Commemorative Edition; mine is #35 of 59, #475 of 1,000
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I'm disappointed in the details included in their article. This GTR certainly did not race at the 1994 Le Mans event. The first 9 F1 GTRs were not even built until 1995. This was the livery the car wore for the 1995 Le Mans race where it placed 13th overall. As for their pricing estimate, a range of 2.0M - 2.5M Euro was supplied by Artcurial. I tend to think that is a little high. GTRs don't tend to be as sought after as the road cars. Their high running costs and limited use potential generally make them less desirable than the standard F1s, even once converted for road use. Another interesting point is that this car continued racing up to 1998 and wore two different liveries after this one. Unless those were always done as wraps (and I do not believe they were) then this is not likely to be the original paint job this GTR wore at the 1995 Le Mans event. I mention this specifically because Artcurial seem to be basing their high value estimate on the artistic connection to the livery used at Le Mans but I strongly suspect it has been recreated once this car completed its racing career. >8^) ER
Any shots of 071's interior? I noticed in the book it seemed to have green luggage and some bright orange trim in the cabin. Was this car green/orange inside? Post # 70 (Jorge.rios) shows the car "opened up" and it confirms the orange highlights inside. I love the attention to detail on trimming these cars and 071 seems that little bit more special.
Yes - here are some additional images of #071's interior courtesy of Roger_ph who is also responsible for the images you found in post #70. It might not suit everyone's particular taste, but this car is one of the more personalized and unique F1s I've ever seen in regards to the interior treatment and I applaud the owner's very individual expression with the car. Even the badges on the nose and tail were done to match the theme he created. >8^) ER Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I've studied that theory before as this is not the first time I've seen some offer that suggestion. I think if you compare the two more closely you'll find that while they do appear to be similar they aren't identical. Specifically the 300ZX/Diablo headlamp uses a much wider high-beam lamp with a slight arcing curve on the left and right sides. The one inside the McLaren's headlamp is more narrow and more slab sided with rounded corners. There's also a much wider gap between that rectangular lamp and the projector inside the F1's headlamp. It can be difficult to determine scale from two digital images, but I'm pretty certain that the projector in the F1s headlamp is smaller in diameter than the one inside the other headlamp too. Last but not least, the F1's projector has an HID/Xenon light output and the 300ZX/Diablo lamp was always just used your basic incandescent projector. >8^) ER Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Nope - it is the original McLaren road car, the 1969 McLaren M6GT. Bruce McLaren had his sights set on building a run of road cars shortly before his death. Just a few were built and he used the first one as his personal daily driver. http://www.mathewscollection.com/mclaren/McLaren_M6GT.htm >8^) ER
Not sure if these have been posted, but there are some nice detail shots of 007 here. http://www.supercarfrance.com/zoom.htm And here: http://www.swisscarsightings.com/indepth/pages/indepthmclarenf1.html
One orange F1 was on display at the presentation of the MP4-12C in Duesseldorf, Germany. see http://www.carpassion.com/magazin/438-mclaren-mp412c-deutschlandpremiere.html and scroll down Gert
That's the car we were just discussing - chassis #071. Another pair of photos from the event appear on Flickr from the photographer 'Pixelklinik'. I'll attach them below but here's links to obtain a slightly larger version of each one from his gallery. http://www.flickr.com/photos/31610732@N06/4710908035/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/31610732@N06/4714768494/ The third shot I found on McLaren Automotive's Facebook page. >8^) ER Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
