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unmount AC radiator w/o removing anything else?

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  1. bigpino

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    I got a 90 348 with a leak in the AC front radiator. Is it possible to unmount it without anything else like the bumper or headlights?

    I can see that the plastic cover plates are not a problem and the two lines are easily accessible. But when I look down through the slits of the headlight, I can see 4 bolts on the 'front' of the radiator mount. Or are those not required for unmounting the radiator?

    btw, I found a guy that can fill the system with r143a, so no retrofit needed. What's your experience with that?
     
  2. plugzit

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    Easy to dismount from inside the wheelwell.
     
  3. bigpino

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    Ok, just for my own understanding. I can access every nut, bolt etc. required to unmount the AC radiator when I remove the wheel?

    That would be great!
     
  4. plugzit

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    1. Jack it up
    2. Remove wheel
    3. Remove access panel
    4. Remove plastic piece under bumper
    5. Remove ac parts.
    6. Take a break, have a beer! :)
     
  5. rbellezza

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    NICE !
     
  6. bigpino

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    woohoo, that's great. So it seems I might be able to fully enjoy spinning its wheels this summer.

    That's man.
     
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    #7 bigpino, Jun 17, 2010
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    Well it appeared as you said, plugzit.

    The brackets that are clamped on the radiator are rusted. Does anyone know a source where you also can order these internationally?
     
  8. plugzit

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    Where are you? (recommend you fill out your profile-also, subscribers get more pics, etc)
     
  9. bigpino

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    The Netherlands. I'm a subscriber. I'm not sure what you mean by more pics and stuff, but I can see them all.
     
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    #10 bigpino, Jun 18, 2010
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    I went to a radiator specialist and it appears the radiator (it's actually called condenser) said it's beyond repair, i.e., if they do it's most likely to fail on another spot.

    They can manufacture a similar condenser, but I was wondering what the typical price is of an original one. Any one?
     
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    Hi,

    Part number is 62590600 and the cost would be around £241 + VAT if you get one from Ferrari.

    Hope that helps.

    Regards,
    Phil.
     
  12. plugzit

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    There's been one on ebay.uk for quite a while for about $150 or so IIRC.
     
  13. 2NA

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    Look under your name, it says:

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  14. bigpino

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    Could you give me the exact details of that shop, because there are not a lot of those condensers left in the world?
     
  15. bigpino

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    Can't find it, but than again, I'm not keen on secondhand radiators. Had bad experiences with that.

    IIRC -> if i remember correctly OR if i really care:)
     
  16. bigpino

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    Ok, custom made is not an option, since it will cost more then €700 :(.
     
  17. plugzit

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    The one I saw was a new one.
    If I remember correctly. IIRC
     
  18. bigpino

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    What key words did you use? I'm not able to find it.
     
  19. bigpino

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    Thanks for the tip, however, I'm currently quite satisfied.
     
  20. Organiser

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    Hi,

    Its www.ferrariparts.co.uk

    This the main Ferrari parts supplier for the UK, part of the Graypaul Ferrari group.

    Regards,
    Phil.
     
  21. bigpino

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    None available:(, thanks anyway.
     
  22. agnello11

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    I think I remember this - was it new but 'shop-soiled'? If that was the one, I checked with the seller to see if it was cosmetic damage or more and apparently it was holed :( I then checked with my A/C guy to see how easy it might be to repair and he advised me to leave well alone... apparently the pipework is a continuous loop so you can't seal off one pass and it operates at high pressure. He's prepared to have a go at most things, but wasn't prepared to tackle this and advised buying new. By the way, he also advised against buying 2nd hand as in his opinion it was a false economy due to the likelihood of corrosion in a 2nd hand one. Hope that helps.
     
  23. bigpino

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    I got the same message this time. Previously, I bought a second hand oil-radiator for my 911 and had it checked for leaks on pressure. To make a long story short, I ended up appending an extra week to my Holidays in Italy waiting for the part coming in and repair. I was surprised, though, how capable these mechanics are in Italy. It was at a fiat garage in a very very small village:)
     
  24. bigpino

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    #24 bigpino, Jul 4, 2010
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    Ended up purhasing an original condenser for €400. It's a nice price I would say and it was in the next day or so.

    During the check up of my old one I lost the o-rings. I have to replace them anyway, but don't know their sizes. Anyone?
     
  25. PAP 348

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    They are a pretty universal kit man. Wont be hard to ask your local a/c specialist for some o-rings to suit. :):)
     

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