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  1. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
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    I worked on that car a few times when Wally Fisk owned it.

    It needed a lot to be nice then.
     
  2. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

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    yes he bought it about 10 years ago...

    i havent spoken to him in a couple of years so i dont know the state of the car as we speak.
     
  3. wachuko

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    Just curious, what is the going price for one S or SV. I keep checking Bobileff site from time to time, but for the past few months the only one listed there is the SV/J. I know that condition determines $.

    And yes, if I have to ask... like I said just curious as to how much they are exchanging hands today.
     
  4. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    I was just teasing. I know Steve M well, he bought it exactly 14 years ago from Mike S. Ive driven the car, and know its condition.

    As for whether it is the 1st production car, that's an unofficial status and Lamborghini never made anything official, but a status that could be legitimately argued nonetheless. However its not my car nor my point to argue!
     
  5. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    I don't think there is such a thing as a "going price" because the cars vary so vastly in condition!

    If you are in the market please contact me directly as I have some cars available.

    A very nice S might be $400k, and a very nice SV might be $800k, but these are just broad estimates.
     
  6. Kevin2772

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    Are you guys discussing the, what i thought was black, Miura SV that was just shown at the Ault Park Concours last week?
     
  7. Diablo_4_Ever

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  8. Olivier NAMECHE

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    This sublime Miura SV 5104 was the sixth-last SV off the production line. Its production number is 757 and all components (doors, front and rear bonnets, rear fins) bear the same number. It is exceptional from every point of view, as it has only done 3,500 miles since leaving the factory.

    "...Sold new to Guatemala on 22 September 1972 through Lamborghini's Madrid dealer Herrera, this SV has superb Rosso Granada livery and a beige leather interior, air conditioning, Autovox radio and safety-belts: all mentioned on the original invoice, which the buyer will receive.

    The car was subsequently bought and imported by a Belgian named Galina (original import document supplied) on 9 February 1990. He kept it for 11 years (repainting it in its original colour) before selling it to the current owner in 2001.The vendor's mechanic, Franck Opderbeck, then replaced the callipers and the entire cooling circuit (with stainless steel pipes), and thoroughly revised the ignition system, carburation and air-conditioning. The four tyres have driven only 625 miles.

    This example, only third-hand, is surely the finest Miura SV in circulation, with very few miles on the clock and a never-replaced, strictly original interior in dazzling condition. It is 'matching numbers' in every respect, and drives supremely well..."


    never heard of "Galina"...
     
  9. 2NA

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    A lot of changes to a car with so few miles.

    Replacing the original aluminum coolant pipes makes me think "corrosion" from 38 years of mostly non-use. How was the ignition, carburetion and air conditioning "revised"?

    Claiming to be the "finest Miura SV in circulation" (whatever "circulation" means) is a bold statement to be sure.
     
  10. raymondQV

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    #7710 raymondQV, Jun 17, 2010
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    For a repainted car, the colour looks rather flat. Why was a car with so few miles repainted...

    I had a similar experience like this "Galina" with a Miura S engine I sold to belgium a few years ago, the name of the buyer never came through.
     
  11. hyenahf

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    wow how time flys... it dosent seem that long ago
     
  12. Olivier NAMECHE

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    3.500 miles + 1 flight to Guatemala 6.135 miles + 1 flight to Belgium 5.645 miles
    => 15.280 miles... may be the reason for the color change !
     
  13. M.B.

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  14. ilconservatore

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    Yes - were you there?
     
  15. Kevin2772

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    Yeah I went there with my buddy. We took his 96 Viper GTS that was parked way up on observatory.
     
  16. ilconservatore

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    If I'm showing a car I always miss out on cruising the parking lot. With all the club spaces there are always good cars.

    What'd you think of the show? Glad we missed the rain!
     
  17. joe sackey

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    I agree with you. The car may have low miles but it is 40 years old and in the space of that period replacing the old (& poorly applied) lacquer paint is hardly a surprise. This SV maintains most of its original components & details, remaining unrestored and much more original than most SVs you'll come across.

    The claim of "the finest..." is a bit of a stretch though.

    Also the statement by the auctioneer "Sold new to Guatemala on 22 September 1972 through Lamborghini's Madrid dealer Herrera" is incorrect IMO because in 1972 the Lamborghini Concessionaire for the whole of Spain was in fact Werner 'Ben' Heiderich (Orulla). Also, Herrera was the name of the first owner from the prominent family of Guatemala with homes in Spain and France and I don't think this car ever visited Guatemala (as with some other Miuras listed in the factory's production register to owners from far-flung countries but the car was never actually delivered there).

    I mentioned the car a couple weeks ago.
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=139627645&postcount=7622
     
  18. wachuko

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    Thank you! I do not have the financial means to buy one at this time. But this is THE car that I would buy if my financial situation changes.

    For now I am just looking forward to your book and anything I find. I am curious as to what it is like to live with this beauty. How reliable or not they are, what are service intervals like, just what would you will be looking at to enjoy this car driving it rather than sitting in a rotational platform (not that there is anything wrong with that either, since to me, it is also a fine work of automotive art).
     
  19. M.B.

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    Actually another good point: the car never visited Guatemala.., if i was in the marked for an SV this was THE one, just a very original lovely example in a great colourcombo! And no mirrors=car isn't used much and looks cool aswell. by the way: nice little movie on that link shows exacly the beautiful lines of the SV
     
  20. Kevin2772

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    Honestly I thought it was a blast. Tons of incredible cars there. That Super Trofeo was quite interesting as well with the rims and the body kit that were on it. But I think half the fun was walking in. What car were you showing there?
     
  21. wachuko

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    Got the book Saturday... wow, a great labor of love. Thank you gathering all the information and photos for everyone to enjoy.
     
  22. joe sackey

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    U R are welcome.

    I think this book might be a one-and-only from me as there are other priorities nowadays.
     
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  24. Olivier NAMECHE

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