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Any Singapore Ferrari owners?

Discussion in 'Asia' started by DouglasNg, Jun 7, 2004.

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  1. SFchallenge

    SFchallenge F1 World Champ

    Jun 28, 2004
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    I've joined SMSA but haven't had the time to look further into local racing license. Maybe I should give them a call & it helps that my mechanic in KL enters in the annual Merdeka Cup but let's hope the new Changi track will open to a lot more activities.
     
  2. CalvinDarius

    CalvinDarius Rookie

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    #64327 CalvinDarius, Jun 28, 2010
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2010
    Hi all,

    Joined the forum back in late 2008 and enjoyed reading the posts and topics. Reluctant to post initially but hope to contribute hence forth.

    Anyway, F355 has been my all time love and of course some other Italian classics. Test drove my friend's Gallardo recently and the initial startup of the engine note was fantastic.

    By the way, i currently own an Alfa so hopefully next time can meet you guys to appreciate your rides. Thanks.


    Regards,
    C.D
     
  3. MARK1992

    MARK1992 Formula 3

    Feb 7, 2010
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    I love the horn lever in these classics, like the Opel Kadett. Really charming.
     
  4. SFchallenge

    SFchallenge F1 World Champ

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    What's a Kadett? Do u have pics of it?

    Hello CD, your username is very familiar. Welcome on the 1st post.

    I had an Alfa 156 wagon before & though it sucks a bit, it never let me down. F355s are rather affordable these days but they seldom come up for sale & 360s are proofing to be rather good value too.

    Yes, the whirling spool-up sound of the Gallardo is rather unique, which year model did u test drive?
     
  5. MARK1992

    MARK1992 Formula 3

    Feb 7, 2010
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    Hmmm I seem to be unable to find any interior pictures of it. It's the 1962 Opel Kadett a. Steering wheel has that chrome bar going across it like the Pagoda's for the horn. It's just so magnificent!
     
  6. CalvinDarius

    CalvinDarius Rookie

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    #64331 CalvinDarius, Jun 28, 2010
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    Hi SF! Haha... yes, back in CarFreaks days remember? Not sure if i've met you in person before. Was driving A147 back then...

    Driven a F355 years ago, love the raw feel, super heavy clutch and steering. Especially during low speed turning, can be a handful to deal with the steering. Yes, maybe in future if one comes about and within my budget i "may" consider. Already started saving...

    Yeah, the spool-up sound of the Gallardo is fantastic. Think must be the fuel pump activating (perhaps i'm wrong). If i'm not wrong, it was the 2006 LP560-4 Spyder. Also got a chance to test the F430 Spider too (short run around my friend's condo)...Took me 5 mins before i figured out that i need to flick both the pedals to engage neutral. :(
     
  7. leang86

    leang86 F1 Rookie

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  8. leang86

    leang86 F1 Rookie

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    Ok, I will check with him!

    So going for some upgrades I suppose?


    That is true in regards to the paint but for the bi-color option to have the roof in black that is not worth the money.
     
  9. SFchallenge

    SFchallenge F1 World Champ

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    Damn! This sounds like a scratch on the blackboard with nails :eek: but seriously, me thinks there's too little space between the disc & wheel.

    Possibly, only added less than 50km & Larini will be nice :)

    On the roof, sticker it! In fact, sticker the whole darn car!

    Was quoted $2.8K to have a Gulf-racing look on my Porsche but maybe later.
     
  10. AMsg

    AMsg Rookie

    Dec 23, 2009
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    The cheapest way to go racing locally is karting. 150K SGD or less, a year, will allow you to run every available race in SG, MY, PH, CN, TH, competing against the best drivers (all ranks included) in the region (ones that have done well in big-pool, highly competitive, reasonable cost international racing and not just bought a seat or bought a fancy car to run). That's 10-20 rounds a year, and a further 3 intensive practice sessions a week.

    Karting is an extraordinary form of racing for many reasons:

    - Much lower costs vs other forms of racing mean larger pool. Larger a pool topped, the more it means to be tops. Lower costs mean generally less posers, and a slightly more humble and friendly community.

    - Evenly matched equipment = more level playing field. It is much more difficult to outspend your competitors in karts because of the low ceiling. Outspending by a few K is small compared to tens of K or millions in car racing. There are much fewer excuses to give.

    - Very good physical fitness to tolerate up to 1.8 - 2.8 G laterals, with almost no rest time in between. In comparison a P or AM cup car pulls typically 1.6 - 1.9 G. Mid to mid-high level formula cars (F3, FV6, F2000) pull around 2.5 - 3.0 G but even then they are not as taxing to drive because of the courses they run on (still lots of rest between turns) and the laydown seating position, head surround (in some case), harnesses and all. Also lower jerk levels, see below.

    - Very high jerk levels and yaw rates in karts. Jerk as in derivative of acceleration, meaning in a race kart on a kart track taking a chicane, you could be pulling say -2.3 G lat (right), and just 0.4 seconds later, you're now at 2.3 G lat (right) in the opposite vector (over 11 G/s jerk level). Cars, even top tier formula cars including F1, simply cannot run jerk levels that high because of their inertia, track layout, and aero aided performance. A good race kart will yaw under control at up to around 90 deg/s. Top tier formula cars max out at around 60-70 deg/s

    - Close racing. With such high lateral limits and strong longitudinal limits ( 0.8 - 1.4 G, a race kart pulls like any supercar or GT car in 2nd gear, which is all the gear you use on track anyway, except in karts you experience it every 8 - 15 seconds depending on course type, and not 30 seconds apart), the closing and opening rates kart to kart are much higher, and much more sensitive to all driver inputs vs any car especially full size full weight cars, much more precise and higher frequency control is required to be fast and safe. It is difficult to keep fine control under all out racing loads. 80kg body weighs 200kg laterally at just 2.5 G, sitting in a a seat that supports you only up to just below the shoulder blades.

    - Stakes : in karts there is always a high risk of physical injury as a result of even minor contact while racing. As such there is slightly more restraint in terms of pushing, etc. In closed wheel closed cockpit cars, drivers often lean on others just because they know they can do it relatively safely.

    - High levels of situational awareness required (there are no mirrors). The lack of mirrors combined with the close racing means it is necessary to be very aware of what is going on around you. The number of variables around you in a pack is large in number, and the situation is always changing rapidly.

    - In terms of driver education alone, a typical kart track is good thought training because it is much more difficult to read or test for best line in a given kart on a given day. A 15 turn track may have only 3 discernible sectors because they all are in close proximity to each other and compromise the others. A typical car circuit of 15 turns may have 6 - 8 sectors because they are very clearly grouped and separated by long straights.

    - The practice trackday trackside drive-tweak-drive setup process is also good training for drivers because you can test a setup in just 4 minutes at a track where a single lap is only 30 - 60 sec long. On a car track you need 2 - 3 minutes typically for a single lap. Unlike with cars, no large crews are required to alter setup quickly and go out and test again.

    - Karts hardly fade once warmed up. Any variance in laptime is due almost exclusively to driver lack of consistency. Full weight road cars are the opposite of this with tires, brakes, temps hence engine maps, moving around all the time, making a clear picture of driver performance across a long stint more difficult to see. In a kart you can drive till your head and arms fall off, and the kart will take it all and not miss a beat. Cars are always fading, failing, while delivering only half or a third of the intensity.


    For these and other reasons, it is no wonder many top drivers consider karting the purest form of autosport, and why so many top drivers train in karts to stay sharp. Not touring car, not GT car, lower formula cars, and definitely not any sort of road car, supercar or not.

    Karts don't look or sound very cool, and there isn't as much money in it to glam or hype it up, but karting is truly a very challenging and fun sport, and arguably the best form of racing to take up.
     
  11. Maserati GranTurismo S

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    I think you should do it. Gulf looks great and definitely a rare sight on the roads.

    My heart tells me you got the DB9 but my brain tells me you chose the Flying B.
     
  12. Maserati GranTurismo S

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    The Kadett is the one Hammond fell in love with during the African Road Trip?
     
  13. Maserati GranTurismo S

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    Haha okay now I know! Anyway I don't like stuff from A&F so that's lucky :D
     
  14. Ken25

    Ken25 Karting

    Jan 24, 2007
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    Thanks for the link. I first noticed it a few days back. I spoke to HSM and Ital so far they know not of this problem. Anway it is considered an act of god!!!!
     
  15. MARK1992

    MARK1992 Formula 3

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    Yea, it is. Although I've seen it in a motoring show before Top Gear.
     
  16. MARK1992

    MARK1992 Formula 3

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    Wow, very comprehensive write-up. Thank you very much for that. A mate and I are rather interested in Motorsports (Not rather, absolutely) and I've never really considered the points you listed. Very insightful :)

    Do you race competitively?
     
  17. uhoo

    uhoo Karting

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    #64342 uhoo, Jun 28, 2010
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    Quick question for those attending the drive this Saturday: Leader - Captain Slow or... um, the Clarkster?

    The answer will (obviously) decide the pace of the drive.
     
  18. vinesh22

    vinesh22 Formula 3

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    Lucky for u, over there u see evos and wrxs, here is Wajalutions..hahaha :D
    No problemo..;)
    They've been saying they wanna abolish the AP system for ages mate, but we all know that Proton and Perodua still need training diapers!

    I thought u already gave out a HUGE clue after I posted the black and white Bentley photos..was a few comments after that..:p
     
  19. kopiokosong

    kopiokosong Formula 3

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    for what its worth ,from a legal perspective,this doesnt sound like act of god to me. i think u shld try to press the factory a bit harder on defective design
     
  20. Maserati GranTurismo S

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    I think Capt Slow should lead if not the gap may get too big between the first and last car.
     
  21. SFchallenge

    SFchallenge F1 World Champ

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    That sounds like an uphill task. But if Ken's willing to rope in others from Fchat etc maybe then there's a hope.

    Ken, there's something I'd say about the grooves but fear it'll drive u up the wall, so maybe not :D
     
  22. SFchallenge

    SFchallenge F1 World Champ

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    Dan, is this happening? This Saturday morning?

    Sareve
    Douglas
    SF

    Who else?
     
  23. Ken25

    Ken25 Karting

    Jan 24, 2007
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    Yes, please enlighten me, :p. A famous fchat elder commented because I drive a little too slowly....haha!
     
  24. CosmoZ

    CosmoZ Karting

    Aug 6, 2008
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    Well, you wouldn't want the convoy to be slow as well. You will cause traffic to stop!
     
  25. SFchallenge

    SFchallenge F1 World Champ

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    Dan, is this happening? This Saturday morning?

    Sareve
    Douglas
    SF
    Mp (posting on his behalf :D)

    Who else?
     

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