Australia's worst Prime Minister poll!

Thats the thing.

In the Mines, there is A LOT of turnover. They reckon the average Aussie has 4-5 jobs in their working lifetime. A few years here and there.

I intend to stick around here, do my 20 yrs in the Mining game then get the **** out.

Thats what all the "locals" do. Its the out of towners that come here and do their 2-3 yrs then leave. The company hates it because of all the time and money invested to train people just to see them leave soon after.

Mate owns the local Autobarn, if he can keep an employee for a few months he is happy.

He pays the national Autobarn average and is a top bloke to work for. The Mines just sucks people in.

You give me a job Scuddy paying $120K and im your 30 yr man mate.

 

Before I went underground I was fixing cars. I did an apprenticeship from mid 99-01. I was paid $11 p/hr as an apprentice. Did my time in 2 yrs, 2 months. Worked with one of the best guys in the biz! Learned a lot.

I then got a payrise to $15 when the new boss took over. Was on $15 p/hr from 02-03. I asked for a payrise because I "wasnt getting anywhere". My new boss laughed in my face and said I can thank John Howard for NOT getting a payrise. High tax rates or something he told me and he couldnt afford it.

Thats all I needed to hear. I said thankyou and said to myself I will look for another job when I can. Funny enough, the next day I was offered $18 p/hr on a few conditions. The conditions were piss poor, so I said thankyou and declined the offer.

3 months later they gave me that payrise to $18 p/hr with no conditions anyway. 6 months later I resigned and went underground and have never looked back.

I always wonder if they DID give me a payrise when I asked for one..........if I would still be working there?

And trust me, they lost a good man when I quit. The amount of work I used to pump out of that show was amazing.

(Workshop closed up 12 months later after going through a few replacement mechanics. )

 

Thats correct, I have only been in business for 3 years now and for a small business I have been through my share of staff already, I have tradespeople walk in here and tell me they are worth x amount per week, in turn they are told they must make me xxx per week for me to survive, not one of these people have done that! yet I have a couple of guys that started working for me on my terms and now get paid more than any of these jokers (including myself) as over time they have proven that they care about where they are and what they are doing and they have the same long term goals for the place as me.
Once you go from employee to employer you find out fast how small the gap is between the two, they take home more money than me p/w, get all thier entitlements paid at the end of the day, I on the other hand dont take home as much money p/w but MAYBE ONE DAY I will have a good little business I can sell if I am fortunate enough, but in the meantime MY ASS IS ON THE LINE EVERY DAY.

 

Interesting.

 

Lets just say lucky I did'nt open a workshop just to make money!

 

Lol, yeah...........lucky.

 

Welcome to business!! I've been doing it for 20+ years- though I employ professionals/academics rather than trades - not that it makes the slightest difference to attitude, I've had a few smart ar$e gen Y graduates who thought the world owed them a living - the usual indicator of an issue is an expectation of starting at the top....."what colour BMW do I get?"

I know it's a cliche but, any small business is only as good as the people who work for it - find the right people (if only it was that easy!), pay them well and look after them - it's the little things that count-I give my guys the day off for their wives or girlfriends (but not both!) birthday, so they can take them out for lunch and whatever..... an employee who has recently got a leg over is a happy employee...

If you'r planning on selling the business in the future, you absolutely have to get yourself out of the "front line" - businesses built entirely around the owner are hard to sell for obvious reasons and usually fail when sold to a new owner. Get it to the stage where the business works just as well, or better, when you're not there...

 

Dead right Dave, it's when you give them that day off and thier in you're office the following week asking for more you get a bit disturbed.

 

you're hard man, that could be a discrimination case with IR

 

I'm only about to hit 22 and I'm already on job number 4! (all in the same industry, basically all on the same street). My theory is to set myself some goals, achieve them, then set sail out of there and trade up to the next role. The premise of that is to build a reputation for my work with as many people as possible.

Hopefully this shall bear fruit in the coming years, but I think the current job has goals that will keep me here until I graduate.

 

Kevin in Heaven's $600,000.00 per year golden handshake!

 

they all cost heaps

http://www.news.com.au/ex-pm-john-howard-costs-taxpayers-more-in-retirement/story-0-1225757105993

http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/perks.htm

is the alternative to see tham treated like Trueman was ??

 

I hope it all works out for you mate.

Makes me sick.

 

It's the old saying PAP, you pay peanuts you get monkeys, maybe if the PM's job payed triple whats it's paying now we would have a smart guy (or woman) running the place, there are business people out there that could run this place tied to a chair with a blindfold on. A friend of mine once told me he was talking to a very prominent Melbourne businessman and asked him if he had ever considered politics, the reply was....what for, if I need something I just give the party some money, you cant get paid enough to fix what the monkeys have done over a lot of years.
Go through the BRW rich list, there are plenty there that would swat Kevin or Joolia like bugs.

 

Exactly right but you'll never get them into public office because who wants to live their life the way these people do under constant (often irrelevent) scrutiny, get paid peanuts and usually get shafted by their mates (remember Little Johnnie was dumped TWICE, Turnbull was the only brains the Libs have had in recent memory etc etc).

BTW, since Kevvie has been in parliament for something over 20 years (IFIRC) $600k isn't much to show for it. How much did that jerk Trujillo take home after a couple of years stuffing things up at Telstra?

 

Mate, I could do a better job than Rudd or Gillard ever would.

All they need to show is a little common sense, pretty hard to do for some people.

You think our politics are ****ed, you should see the way they run the show where I work.

Makes you wonder what drugs they must all be on.

 

Thats what i'm talking about in a sense PAP, but if you think about it would a 600k retirement package be enough to carry the whole weight of it on you're shoulders, betya Rio/BHP execs walk away with a tad more than that.

 

Wait, I thought it was $600K annually for Rudd?

$600K, total. **** that! Not worth getting out of bed for that.

 

Yep, anually
How much would a top ranked mining exec get anually ?
600k= nowhere near enough, the way these clowns are running the place you're average tradie will be earning that soon.

 

Well, I bet ya $1000 Mining exec's dont get $600K annually in retirement.

But they make millions annually when they are in the top job, yes.

Here is what the Xstrata exec's get paid annually.

I would do the PM gig to get a $600K annual salary when I retire.
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but WON 4 terms in office.

little johnnie has nothing to do with the shambles that is the current labor party.

 

Just dont talk about the ICC

 

LOL!