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  1. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    looks horn
     
  2. wrxmike

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    The club received legal advice from 2 sources on what the legal issues were with implementing the contract. Its all on www.fcacontract.com.

    A summary:

    The resulting advice was that (A) either that signing the contract would require the amendment of the clubs constitution on a line by line basis in where there was a conflict between the two, or (B) that by adding clause 2a to the constitution, whereby the Ferrari agreement would be given precedence over the clubs constitution if there was a conflict between the two, avoided the cost and effort of changing the constitution on a line by line basis.

    (A) is quite specific and required more work (& cost) to implement but limits the extent the Ferrari agreement impacts on the club's constitution to only those amendments voted on and agreed to by the members.

    (B) is much simpler to implement but more far reaching, because there is no limitation to the priority of the Ferrari agreement over the clubs constitution. Simply by changing the owners club agreement (which the Ferrari contract refers to), Ferrari are able to override any element of the club's constitution because their agreement has complete precedence

    The committee voted to put option 'B" to the members, that's what you are voting on. :(

    The club did not ask the lawyers the question: Is this a good agreement to sign?

    M
     
  3. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    and any good lawyer would disclaim such advice, in the end its a fait acompli.....the hairdressers get their factory blow job and we carby people just cruise the highways like the burnt out shell of men that we are
     
  4. RMV

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    hmmmmm.... interesting.
     
  5. Aircon

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    been hacked by scud?
     
  6. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    his vote could make all the difference
     
  7. RMV

    RMV F1 Veteran

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    yep. when i don't understand something, i respond with: hmmmmm, interesting. :)
     
  8. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    any agreement where there is no negotiation is a bad agreement.
     
  9. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    i say the same thing when I come
     
  10. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    is the hairdresser spec guy still around?
     
  11. RMV

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    the decision was already made... the legal advice pertained only to implementation. Crazy.
     
  12. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    ever tried dealing with McDonalds........I have and for 10 years I have been saying no, negotiation is out of the question, this is my price and it goes up with CPI
     
  13. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    he probably voted yes......what a tosser of a human
     
  14. RMV

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    you mean arrive, don't you?
     
  15. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    being a North Adelaide boy that I am.......we only arrive, but some here who come from the burbs........well they dont understand slapper trust fund talk
     
  16. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    my understanding is that it was non negotiable.
     
  17. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    sounds like a clown
     
  18. goober

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    so was the bomb that landed on hiroshima..........and look what happened after that----we got invaded by honda
     
  19. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    housing trust scumbag
     
  20. Arvin Grajau

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  21. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    looks like the FCA club house after the multi national takes us over
     
  22. RMV

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    sounds like a good deal.
     
  23. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    its a dump
     
  24. RMV

    RMV F1 Veteran

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    have been reading the 'vote no' website. kudos to whoever put that together... very well thought out and written.

    Let's hope that those posting here do not represent a vocal (but informed) minority and that the rank and file members do the right thing (vote NO).
     
  25. Ossie

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    Cool, I like the idea of 38 Mad Max's in carby f-cars looking for f-lawyers on motor bikes!
     

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