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Any Singapore Ferrari owners?

Discussion in 'Asia' started by DouglasNg, Jun 7, 2004.

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  1. Harold

    Harold F1 Rookie

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    #64726 Harold, Jul 10, 2010
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    Around 1,500 for wings bud. The wings are typically model specific so you will just need to check out which ones have a mounting base that can match up somewhere to the testa's boot. Let me know when you are going down and I will inform them to look out for you, or I can try and be there if next weekend. Yuensm put a GTR wing on his Maser if I remember right. The brands they sell at Garage R are all the good Japanese brands for carbon fibre. Not knock off's. Look for Jason who is one of the sales people there.
     
  2. kopiokosong

    kopiokosong Formula 3

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    stock or after market exhaust?
     
  3. DouglasNg

    DouglasNg Formula 3

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    stock exhaust..
     
  4. Dipsomaniac

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    depends on what you've been eating :D

    mine does it as well .. although I rarely accelerate hard ;)
     
  5. kopiokosong

    kopiokosong Formula 3

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    i would have thot with the stock exhaust ,factory settings would make it quite hard to induce flames, but maybe downshift to accelerate hard at high rpms and, u cld get flames. dont get it with my 360 cs but did with my old testa with tubi
     
  6. Harold

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    #64731 Harold, Jul 11, 2010
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    With any car, the flame thrower effect is purely unburnt fuel catching fire in the exhaust of the car. Reason is that the ECU program of a high performance car has been designed to flow more fuel through the engine at increased load as a safety margin to avoid a state of excessive lean fuel air mixtures running through the engine when it needs it most- at heavy load.

    So a bit of flame coming out of the exhaust is likely a sign of a more conservative fuel program on your car under heavy load or high speed. The counter to this is a rich mixture is effectively robbing power. BUT when using poor octane fuel, this is a good thing. I typically run a richer fuel program in Malaysia on my Evo given the custom programming to ensure the car doesnt go too lean and kill itself. But for my Porsche given it is running on an original program with the original ECU, the system adapts adequately to not require me to fiddle with the program.
     
  7. DouglasNg

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    Yeapp i think i was downshifting from 5th to 3rd then hard acceleration to near redline. This might have induced the petrol combusting in the exhaust as stated by Harold.

    I noted that the temperature of the car was hovering around 100deg c under great acceleration even though the car was travelling on expressway, thought the air going thru the car shld be sufficient to cool down the engine?
     
  8. kopiokosong

    kopiokosong Formula 3

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    u must hv been travelling at 'Malaysian' speeds :D
     
  9. DouglasNg

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    HAHA.

    It will be cool if we can get a shot of F430 Coupe and Spider throwing flames from the exhaust during a night drive.
     
  10. DouglasNg

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    Another question: there were squeaky sounds coming from the ceramic brakes when the car is coming to a stop, is it normal? I noticed there were no such sounds from the brakes previously.

    Stepped out of the car to check if there were groove lines caused by stones stuck in between the brake caliper and the brake disc but there are no signs. The sound comes and goes away. Any experience?
     
  11. DouglasNg

    DouglasNg Formula 3

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    definitely kept my speed within limits hahah
     
  12. DouglasNg

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    Thanks for the information. So i suppose the factory ECU programming of the F430 is more on the conservative side? Btw, I was on sports mode.

    Will there be any difference if I switched over to 'Race' on the manettino?
     
  13. Harold

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    #64738 Harold, Jul 11, 2010
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    100 degrees for the oil or water temp? Either way thats fine, engines run well up to 120 degrees no problem... and its not what will cause the flame thrower effect. When the car increases revs and load... the exhaust temp will rise from about 450 degrees (normal city driving) up to well over 750 degrees.... thats what causes the fuel to combust... the heat in the exhaust... not measured in any dials on a standard car.... you need to get a separate monitoring system to see these spikes in temp.
     
  14. Harold

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    This I have no knowledge over, but thought that the race and sports modes related largely to gear shifting in an F Car? Need LUNG or some other Ferrari expert to check in here. To pump out more power through the ECU on an NA via sport mode on a porker for example, its largely leaning out the fuel mixture just a wee bit to get more power... nice for power.... not so nice for longevity of the engine internals....
     
  15. leang86

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    If I remember correctly, Hon did not install the veilside wing onto his ex Murcie. The expensive wing stayed on the car even after the veilside kit was installed.

    The combination was really cool! :)
     
  16. leang86

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    #64741 leang86, Jul 11, 2010
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    I believe if a big event is planned with good advance notice, most of us should be able to make it! The overseas drive is definately interesting!

    Yes, I got pictures of the race queens! ;)

    Ferrari in KL still with you right?
     
  17. leang86

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    #64742 leang86, Jul 11, 2010
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    Night drive is a great idea! Next week.


    Thats normal.

    Its from the unburnt fuel!
     
  18. leang86

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    It is also normal to hear the squeaky sound from the ceramic brakes!
     
  19. Ken25

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    Any clue on when the final results are out for the above dealer?
     
  20. SFchallenge

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    Harold, I'm impressed. U sound more sober when u're down under! :D
     
  21. SFchallenge

    SFchallenge F1 World Champ

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    Same here, my 997 squeals all the time. Not sure if it's normal though.
     
  22. DouglasNg

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    water temperature..

    that's interesting, didn't know how hot the exhaust gases could be!
     
  23. DouglasNg

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    I read somewhere that the ecu mapping of the car might different. someone correct me?

    Lung? :D
     
  24. Sareve

    Sareve F1 Rookie

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    I dunno bout the 430, but for 599s, the temp should average out around 100 degrees after around 20-30 mins of normal driving. This appears to be its normal operating temperature.

    Haha the at first there were only small bursts of blue flames coming out of your car, sometimes only shooting out from the left exhausts. Later on though, it became a solid jet stream that kept on burning as you steadily accelerated. Bloody amazing!
     
  25. Sareve

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    Don't you need to sleep army boy!
     

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