correct, if Brawn had been running the team he would have told FA to IMMEDIATELY give the place back and continue racing . Dominecelli seems reluctant to make these decisions and it hurts the team, then the FIA officials compound the problem with their wishy washy decisions
John, exactly right, I was wondering why Stefano didn't tell Alonso to give the place back to be on the safe side. Just in case.
I agree with SRT Mike and Bdelp. The whole team is disorganized, since 2007. 2007, was a lucky gift for the Scuderia. They're downhill ever since. Having spent to long developing this year's car, only to see them both finish effectively last is just embarrassing. I don't get how they qualify pretty well, then screw up the next day. I gotta admit, the testing ban is hurting the Scuderia the most. Red Bull and Mclaren have adapted well, but definitely not the Scuderia.
Alonso really impressed again today. Did he think no one was going to see that he cut the track in the left right chicane when he "passed" Kubica? His unwillingness to play by the rules is impressive, second only to his whining powers.
the good team managers pre-empt the penalties to reduce the impact but even the best can screw up like MS and RB in Monaco at the end of the race
I don't think they screwed up. The fact that the FIA decided to change the rules as a consequence of the incident, suggests to me that the FIA admits the rule was unclear. If the rule is unclear, as it was here, it seems inappropriate to punish MS. Given that, I would tend to believe that if the appeal had not been dropped the ruling would have been overturned. MS's pass must have embarrassed Alonso. I wonder what his excuse was when Kobayashi passed him in Valencia.
I said this immediately after MS left ... and now it's coming true. As zaevor2000 said so well, they haven't got the right people to make an effective team. They need to make careful changes at the top. There is a reason why Ferrari had that 21 year gap and now the young people are beginning to see it ... Pete
I guess it's hard for me to see how it's gone downhill so quickly. Race strategy over the past few races has been crafted by some drunken baboons.
I believe doing so would be against Alonso's nature. If he thinks he can get away with it, he will do anything. See, McLaren cheating saga, Singpore gate, China 2010 pit row incident, etc., etc.
Hurts to defend Alonso, but even Kubica stated he knew that Alonso was told and had intended to give back the position, but Kubica's own demise prevented Alonso's timely reaction. I never have liked Alonso, would prefer that he was not at Ferrari, would prefer that LdM would leave, but in this particular case, Alonso does not deserve this flack.
F1 today is a total nonsense, since the latest races are too often spoiled at the FIA offices or by FIA decissions. By comparison, I wonder what would have done and said the FIA commissioners in the famous Dijon 1979 race between Arnoux and Villeneuve. Today it's totally impossible to see two drivers into a REAL race in anger like that. The current excess of 'what-not-to-do-in-case-of' rules and the random interpretation done with them are spoiling the game, the driving, the thrills and the races. That the main reason why the MotoGP (even 125cc bikes) are 4000 times more fun to see than F1.
+1 and is Alonso to dull himself to understand? Talk about his sense of entitlement. Basically, get out of my way Im faster. His emotions tend to at times, over whelm his sense and race craft. A major weakness. I dont think either driver is the issue. Its more a strategic and team oriented issue with mistakes by both drivers only compounding a poor strategic vision and execution.
Someone else already did . Latino people are fairly lazy. As I said in the other thread, just because a lot of them are lazy, doesn't mean every single one of them is. I can't understand why people take everything so literally. Up front it was boring. In the middle of the pack there where some good scraps going on.
HaHa...This is hilarious! This must be the Team unity everyone spoke of when FA announced he was going Red. He is driving well and the team is just settling in. There will be changes in the off season and they will be competitive again...just not this season.
Are you joking? FA has made numerous driving mistakes costing him and the team quali positions and points.
I didn't say he has driven the best of all, just that his driving is not the only factor. there have been occasions all year where someone has put a wheel off in the wrong spot. No one has had a perfect drive yet.
Again. Sorry, but after just a few races into last season, I believe around race 6-7, Ferrari stopped development and concentrated 100% on the 2010 season. Back in the Jean Todt days, this meant pretty much that the car would be neigh on unbeatable that season...This year? 1 lucky win, way to many mistakes, and the car is just not on par. It's 3rd fastest. At best.
Oh, yes, the good ole days, the Jean Todt days, when we had a Leader, a Father for all of us... Do you remember 2005? They also stopped the development of the car early. And the car of 2006 was far from perfect. With Jean Todt. And Ross Brawn. And even Schumacher.
Alonso's driving has been FAR from perfect. For a 2x WDC it's been atrocious. That said,... the car is sub-par for Ferrari (#3 at best) The team work has been poor. And the drivers have been under performing. 3 strikes as they say... One could make the arguement FA is overdriving to compensate for a bad car,... but that doesn't change the fact he has made more mistakes than a double WDC should.
What he said! The days of MSC, Rory, Ross & Jean are now unfortunately since long gone. But I hope that the management (LdM) will realize this and go for top competence rather then anything else...
