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  1. ar4me

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    #1 ar4me, Jul 11, 2010
    I have made deposit and reached agreement to purchase a 2002 6 spd manual coupe contingent upon clean PPI. It is a good distance (> 500 miles) away, and I plan to bring my enclosed race car trailer and tow it home. I would have flown in and driven it home, but my wife suggested we make a small vacation out of it and visit some scenic places on the route (which I'm all for).

    My question is two-fold:
    1. Does the 360 have good tie-down points? Any pictures? Trailer obviously have tie-down rings, and I could put straps through wheels, but would straps foul on bumpers (tie-down rings are in standard position immediately in front and behind of vehicle on floor)?
    2. I have an electric winch in the trailer and can winch the car up. Does it have a front tow point where steel wire of winch will not foul bumper or aero stuff? I can drive car up, but with the width of the 360 and the long doors I would have to climb out the side window. That is not a problem with the race car, but I would not want to do that to the 360.

    All suggestions, pointers, etc. appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Jes
     
  2. Need4Spd

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    #2 Need4Spd, Jul 11, 2010
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    I don't know about the tie down points but there is a relatively stout hard point inside the left (driver's side) radiator inlet (on the right side when looking at the car head-on; inside there, it's at the NW corner inside the grille) that accepts the OEM threaded tow eye, which should come with your car in the factory tool kit. Hopefully the PPI comes out clean and you'll be towing your new gem home very soon!
     
  3. wingfeather

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    #3 wingfeather, Jul 11, 2010
    Perhaps I misread your post, but you want to make a little vacation out of it... and you don't want to drive the car??? Doesn't make sense to me. One of the best drives you'll ever have is that first drive home. Why throw such a memory away by dragging the beast (the F car) behind you?
     
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    #4 FLU, Jul 12, 2010
    +1 avoid dragging...whenever possible heh...
     
  5. ar4me

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    #5 ar4me, Jul 12, 2010
    Totally agree - one small problem, though: only seats 2...
     
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    #6 FLU, Jul 12, 2010
    awww...so you only get to pick one favorite family member...too bad so sad...=P
     
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    #7 E60 M5, Jul 12, 2010
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    Here are some pics of my car after being loaded in the trailer and ready for the drive home.

    Yes, mirrrors are in and you have a very tight squeeze out the window to get out of the vehicle. Bring a blanket to cover seat and exterior paint if you want to gaurd from scratches and so on.

    Notice the towels in the wheels to prevent scratches there as well. Not a hard operation at all. Just take your time. If the trailer has winch, like mine did, this is best and then you don't have to drive in the vehicle.

    I trailered mine all the way from Chicago to DC without an issue.


    Hope the pics help. Have fun and congrats!!!
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  8. ar4me

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    #8 ar4me, Jul 12, 2010
    Thanks Robert - perfect. Exactly what I needed to see. Yes, I have electric winch in case the race car should get disabled ;-) I see you used the wheels for tie-down and not chassis points, and had no problems with the straps fouling the bumpers.
    Jes
     
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    #9 ferrarilou, Jul 12, 2010
    Depending on how your tongue weight works out, you may want to load the car backwards. Also, for strapping the rear, you can go over the lower wing. For the front, if the tiedowns are further away from the wheel and chock than shown above, you will get some interference with the bumper. Bring along some thick foam to protect any areas where the strap might rub the bodywork.


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  10. ar4me

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    #10 ar4me, Jul 13, 2010
    Looks like it is a go :)

    Compression: 182, 180, 180, 178, 181, 178, 183, 180
    Biggest variation: 178-183 ~ < 3%
    Leak-down: 3% on all cyl.

    Looks like a healthy engine to me - anyone?

    They will perform a major with T-belts, tensioners, degreeing of cams, cam seals, all fluids, etc., and I expect to pick-up towards end of next week - can't wait.

    Thanks,
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  11. Need4Spd

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    #11 Need4Spd, Jul 13, 2010
    Those numbers look good to me. I suggest that since the engine will be apart and they are changing tensioners anyway, you have them use the Hill Engineering parts. http://www.ricambiamerica.com/product_info.php?cPath=600_519&products_id=224307
     
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    #12 ar4me, Jul 13, 2010
    Thanks for the confirmation. I seem to remember reading that dealers are only allowed to use Ferrari OEM...? If that is correct, it may rule out the Hill Engineering part - please correct if I'm wrong! I will also check with them. Suggestions and advice much appreciated!
    Jes
     
  13. Need4Spd

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    #13 Need4Spd, Jul 13, 2010
    I think it depends on the dealer, so don't hesitate to ask them; they can only say no. You should consider whether there are any warranty implications to this, however. Let's say for example that the dealer does the work and a part fails. While the car may be too old for the "normal" factory warranty, there might be some "repair warranty" that you could claim comes into play. Assuming there is nothing really "wrong" with the OEM Ferrari parts (although you have to wonder why, if that were true, Hill Engineering would bother to design an aftermarket part), you might choose to go with OEM.
     
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    #14 Need4Spd, Jul 13, 2010
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    #15 ar4me, Jul 13, 2010
    I think I will have to use what the dealer will warrant their work with. If I force them to use something, they may object, or void warranty (reasonably) since it is against their wish. Anyway, still waiting to resolve.
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    #16 ar4me, Jul 14, 2010
    Just a follow up regarding using the Hill Engineering tensioner bearing for the major. All labor and parts are covered by a 1 year warranty, but since this is an authorized Ferrari dealer they have to use Ferrari OEM parts according to them. So, OEM it is.
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