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*SPOILERS* Alonso Must Go

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  1. Julio Batista

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    #51 Julio Batista, Jul 12, 2010
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    Please allow us to benefit a little more from your perceptive and original racial profiling:

    Do you think Latinos are less lazy or more lazy than Blacks? Would Blacks just be lazy, fairly lazy, or very lazy? This is highly relevant, because Hamilton is Black!

    Given your sensitivity to these matters, dare I ask you if you think that this is due to the fact Jean Todt is Jewish? You know, Latinos are lazy, jews are very smart, etc...
     
  2. mousecatcher

    mousecatcher Formula 3

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    I guess we all don't have the benefit of your superior intellect.
     
  3. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    HA!

    :D :D :D
     
  4. Bas

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    For starters hamilton is only half black :D.

    It depends where the blacks are from...If they are from Rwanda, avoid. Go a little more south to Botswana however, and they are far more hardworking.

    I didn't even know JT was Jewish, but perhaps you're right, that's why he probably works harder.
     
  5. Mark(study)

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    #55 Mark(study), Jul 12, 2010
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    Has anyone seen an explanation for Alonso's terrible start? When the lights went off, his car just sat there? Everything else that happend for the rest of the day seemed to be the result of that botched start.
     
  6. Julio Batista

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    #56 Julio Batista, Jul 12, 2010
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    You are right, it's always very important to calculate exactly how black a person is.

    You had the courage to make a general "judgment" about the lazy Latinos without going into evasive segmentations. Let's see if you can do the same about Blacks, eh?

    No, no. You are confusing races; Jews are smart. It's the orientals who are the hard working ones.
     
  7. BigWilly

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    Good question, but there is only were it started going wrong.
    Another point no one is talking about is why he did not lift and let RK go back around him? There would have been no penalty handed down if he did that... It was great to see so many drivers driving the wheels off the machines in anger. Maybe they should just randomly piss drivers off before the race.
     
  8. aquapuss

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    That's a sure sign of an unmotivated driver.
     
  9. Tifosi15

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    The 248 F1 was considered the best car of 2006, that was just when Alonso really seemed to be on it. Not that I necessarily blame him for how the season is going
     
  10. Ney

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    Bas -
    step away from the aryan, race baiting bottle, before this thread gets moved to P&R. Apologies are in order.
    Same for Julio
     
  11. DGS

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    It looked like he just couldn't get power down to the pavement.
    Ferrari have been complaining that they can't get heat into the option tires -- that was Massa's reason for his worse-than-Q2 run in Q3.
    Maybe they need more than one "warm up" lap, especially if the grid is going to wait that long for the lights.
    (But no, multiple warm up laps would be too much like Indy.)

    In the post race, Alonso blamed clutch problems for his start.


    The team just isn't paying enough attention.

    By the time the team told Alonso that he had to give back the position, he'd already passed another car, and Kubi was off the pace with his failure.

    I don't have a problem with the drive-thru penalty -- fair cop. But timing it for just after the SC period was a smack in the face at Alonso for complaining that Hami hadn't lost enough positions on his DT at Valencia.

    I get the feeling that, in the Ross days, when the SC graphic went up, they'd have told Alonso to get into the pits for his DT *right now!*, before the SC picked up the leader. Instead, I guess they were playing "mother may I" with Charlie, and were told to wait until after the SC was over ---- when the cars were all packed together.

    Of course, Alonso should have known on his own that a "pass in the grass" isn't valid, and given the spot back immediately.
    But the red mist sometimes closes in, which is why the team need to be watching.

    Somebody at the team also has to explain to Alonso that you don't nerf your own teammate into the weeds.

    Even if they *are* telling Alonso that he's the "#1" driver: when you have a start that bad, you can't get egowacked about your teammate passing you.

    Massa is saying that he has to get rid of the bad luck that's following him around.
    A lot of his bad luck has a name: it's Fernando. ;)
     
  12. Bas

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    Just to clarify I have NOTHING against blacks, jews, latinos, whites or whatever. I live in Botswana at the moment and my friends are ranged from blacks, to whites, to Chinese, eastern europeans and there's even a cuban in the mix as well....everyone makes fun of each other by stereo typing...it's all in good fun.

    I've lived all over the world and in all cultures so far it's been accepted, everyone makes fun of each others stereotypical habits all the time.

    To all offended, I really didn't mean any harm.
     
  13. kraftwerk

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    Hi Bas Spain 1 NL 0 Ham did you proud tho..;)
     
  14. kraftwerk

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    LOL I agree though
     
  15. Julio Batista

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    No, not the same for Julio at all. Read the thread.

    That being said, things between Bas and this lazy Latino are perfectly settled.
     
  16. Bas

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    Ham scored some good points for me indeed...As I've said since last year, the guy has some talent its unbelievable. I never watch football, think its for bad actors and girly men (Christiano Ronaldo anyone? ;) ) but just to support my country...I did yesterday and we lost lol :( Good waste of 2 hours there, should have listened to the octopus!
     
  17. GerryD

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    Not true. If the driver is ahead when pushed off then he will not be penalized but if he was pushed off because he put his nose in where it should not have been (Alonso) and he gets pushed off because the other car (Kubica) had the racing line but then Alonso makes the pass then it is very obvious the Alonso broke the rules. Its as easy as that to see.
     
  18. Fast_ian

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    From autosport:

    The full story: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85243

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  19. Tifosi15

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    And who was it that was saying Alonso would give up and whine about the team when things didn't go his way? While I think this is a bold statement I think it shows determination, good for Alonso, maybe he knows something we don't. It's easy to say things, now get it done on track, fingers crossed

    Red Bull is very close to an in house grenading of their season, that will be their downfall, however, McLaren will be sure hard to beat with both of their drivers consistently in the points.

    re-title: Alonso must NOT go
     
  20. VIZSLA

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  21. Ney

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    Thank you.

    Julio - I know your post was in reaction to Bas and a bit in jest. I viewed it as an opportunity for you both to ease off the racial stereotypes rather than just hit the (!) and let the mods deal with it.

    While not overly PC, we should all be mindful of how something said perhaps in jest may come across in writing as the context on line is missing.
     
  22. DeSoto

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    It´s debateable.

    The 248 was junk in many races in the first half of the season. Later they finally managed to perform reasonabily well, but it was not a dominant car like the F2002 or F2004. And then it broke down in last two races of the season. Not a bad car at all, but it was not the best.

    I agree about Alonso however: those were his best years, specially 2005. Unfortunately for us, I think he´s lost a bit of his touch. But just a bit.
     
  23. DeSoto

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    Must be noted that the translation is a bit overoptimistic. He said he CAN win, not that he WILL win.
     
  24. VIZSLA

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    That's better.
    Mildly delusional :)
     
  25. Tifosi15

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    I always wonder how much is actually lost or helped in translation
     

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