997 GT2

have you considered significantly modifying your current car? there are several supercharger kits for the 997s, or you could (probably) do a turbo motor swap.

check out rennlist or 6speedonline for more...

also, there is a pretty significant jump from a 997 C2S to a 997 GT3, particularly the RS's. is your goal overall, track-day performance or street driving?

 

GT2s and GT3s are track cars. The Turbo is the weekend roadtrip car. The AWD is unobtrusive, and does not detract from the car's performance.

 

what about a 997.2 C2S w/ X51?

 

good point, I assume that would be at/over 400 bhp?

another option would be buy an awd turbo and disconnect/remove the front drivetrain.

 

GT2 is a lot more power than regular 997. I would start with a 997 GT3 and go from there. They are plenty fast for mountain road fun.

 

Def not worth it new. I would only buy it used.

bottomline is that the gt2/3 are too stiff for street use. Ideally I would luv to have a TT RWD.

 

TT is very simple to convert to RWD, I did it to everyone I owned. I get asked questions like this all the time, and if the person lives around here, I take them for a ride in my car, or I ask them this, do you drive your car the 90% of its limit without traction control, and if the answer is yes and you still want more power than go for it. I mean no disrespect, but 99% of the drivers of sports cars never ever push them even close to what they are able to do.

 

i own (ed) both....997 turbo and 997 gt2. have just sold the turbo 2 weeks ago. it was a 997.1 tiptronic S. the gt2 is staying.
while they my seem to be relatively similar to the non porsche driver, these two cars couldn't be more different.

the turbo is a very very capable daily driver with all the power you could wish for. you could cruise around in it like any sedan or enjoy true supercar performance with the 4wd setup making it virtually fool-proof.

the gt2 however is much more focused driver's car. daunting for daily trips if roads are less than excellent due to it's stiffer setup. great powerful tool when in the mood to go for a drive. the michelin pilot cup's are a limiting factor depending on your climate. slippery when cold and when wet.

as you are stating that you are coming from c2s, i would most certainly recommend a 997 turbo.

gt2/gt3 2/3 rs are really only for the die-hard porsche fan.

the only reason i let go of my turbo is that i am replacing it for an sls.
however, i am already looking forward to the 991 turbo......

hope this helps.

 

Jim:

I is pretty simple, I am sure you can find a shop to do it for you. It has been a few years since I did a Porsche (my Gallardo is the latest car I have converted), but if I remember (I'm getting older so my memory is not what it used to be), you just need to remove the driveshaft, and drop the front suspension down just a bit to rebalance it. I do not know your skill as a driver, and even though my reflexes or my body is what it was when I raced, I still have skills, and better yet know the basics of car dynamics, but even with that these cars change when you do these things to them, and it is not for everyone. Someone I took for a ride once said it was like being on a witches broomstick. I do not mean to preach but car companies make their living on people who keep wanting the newest thing, or more power, or a different badge on the back of the car. Though in many cases they never use anything other than the right to say look what I have. I have built or should I say rebuilt two cars that have everything I need, I can not go any faster, I have way more power than I'll ever need, and they serve me well. Good luck.

 

I've been a porschephilie for years..

The Gt2 is a raw car and demands respect. I'd recommend you test drive a Gt2 then compare it to the Turbo before making a final choice. You'll be surprized about how well balanced the Turbo is compared to how purely aggressive the Gt2 can be. The GT3 is a fantastic option because its actually a pretty good daily driver and can switch to a friendly track car for the weekend. Gt2 is less friendly and less forgiving, so you may be more reluctant to make it a daily drive, at least, at first.

In regards to the Gt3 being much of a leap over your C2S - it really is a leap nonetheless because of the driving experience. The Gt3 feels more nimble (believe it or not), the throttle response is much more ideal and the weight difference is evident, so much that you may get slightly more intimidated as you increase your speed. I say intimidated rather lightly because its a GOOD intimidation - its the intimidation which suggests a more exotic feel. With that said, i'd look at a Gt3, or an RS as well before deciding on the (very expensive GT2)

997 Turbo is the perfect Porsche 911. . . The 4wd system isnt as annoying as you'd assume and the power delivery is probably the best in it's class.. Good daily driver, comfortable long-distance cruiser and high quality performance if you'r interested in track driving. My brother in-law actually has an '07 TT and uses it as his only car. He lives in the French Alps and drives it through all seasons of the year - he tracks it every spring and summer (usually does road trips to Spa, or tracks in the mid-southern region of France).... He has put about 98,000 miles on it since then, with all that activity, and it runs PERFECTLY.... If you want to make a choice sooner than later, i would recommend the 997 Turbo.

My Gt2 is used as a daily driver when I am in Florida - but in all honesty, I have found myself driving my wife's A5 more often, whilst there just because the Gt2 is similar to the devil and will encourage you to do things you'd never do in any other car!

 

its a supercar in concentrated form and stupendously punchy, with edgey steering. I havent experienced any reliability issues to be honest, but then again i am not in Florida often enough to drive it substantially. But i can tell you that the Gt2 is an incredible machine with the ability to be held with confidence once you get used to "punch" - having driven a Gt3 and an RS, i can also say that it would be impossible to choose between the pair. If you have the extra cash, the Gt2 will give you the power of a CGT with the compactness of a 911 - Gt3 is better for those who prefer N/A (naturally aspirated) performance. You can't really go wrong with either option.

 

no issues with my gt2 at all. car is really bullet-proof.....

 

Nice problem to have! I have an '07 997TT and while it's NOT my daily driver I am approaching 40K miles.

You should realize that it is pretty easy and pretty inexpensive to improve the feel/handlling of the TT dramatically. Most don't realize that the TT from the factory has quite a wide range when it comes to it's alignment specs. So, the first thing that should be done is check the alignment - even with a new car.

The least expensive and simplest suspension mod would be springs and sway bars. couple this with an alignment using GT3 specs the TT is transformed. Bilstein coilovers is another option. I've taken it a step further and had TPC Racing in MD perform their stage 3 susp. package, which really steps is up even further. The ride is still very good - stiffer than stock, of course but still not bad at all.

As far as reliability the TT, GT2/3/RS all share the legendary, race proven GT1 Metzger engine so no worries there.

Drive 'em all and pick the one you like most!! GL.

 

You need a new local repair guy. LOL