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GTC/4 at Gooding

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  1. mkeith

    mkeith Rookie

    Mar 15, 2009
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    This was lot #69 & sold for 110K. Does anyone know how good of a car it was?
     
  2. shaughnessy

    shaughnessy Formula 3
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    Excellent

    I owned it!!
     
  3. mkeith

    mkeith Rookie

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    Thanks for your input. I'm using it as a barometer to help value another C/4 I'm looking at.
     
  4. shaughnessy

    shaughnessy Formula 3
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    I think it should have sold for at least 120K+comm
    but it didn't.
     
  5. footUNDER

    footUNDER Karting

    Jan 28, 2005
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    It was EXTREMELY NICE
     
  6. mrp_e

    mrp_e Formula Junior

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  7. Nembo1777

    Nembo1777 F1 World Champ

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    So I take it it is not the one you sent a photo of sitting on a forklift a few years ago:)?

    best regards,

    Marc
     
  8. michael bayer

    michael bayer Formula 3

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    9 inch wheels wont fit unless you cut the car
     
  9. Bill26

    Bill26 Formula Junior

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    #9 Bill26, Aug 19, 2010
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    Sorry to disagree with you Michael, but I have 9" rears with no cuts or bends to the guards (including guard lips)

    Regards

    WM
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  10. afwrench

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    WM ,what size and make tires are you running? Thanks ,Mike
     
  11. Bill26

    Bill26 Formula Junior

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    Michelin XWX

    Rear - 225/70VR15 (on 9")
    Front - 215/70VR15 (on 7.5")

    Regards

    WM
     
  12. michael bayer

    michael bayer Formula 3

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    Bill Mine came w 9" rims and it was drivable but I did not feel (and Algar's pros agreed) there was insufficient latteral clearance for safety given the suspension travel. (To be accurate they were 9" Borranis made for the Daytona RW 4300s) Mine is an early car, 14947, perhaps the later cars have more room in the wells? M
     
  13. Bill26

    Bill26 Formula Junior

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    Michael,

    I bought my Borranis (RW4300) new in 2005 and have more than 5k road miles on them - some as hard as you want to run spoke wheels, without problems.

    I have a set of 16's (9' & 7" with Michelin Pilot Sports) that I intended for more serious use. The performance of these is another dimension better in every respect, but as it turns out, the car spends most of its time on the Borranis - mainly because they look right.

    Regards

    WM
     
  14. michael bayer

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    Bill And no modifications to the wheel well? What is your car's serial number? M
     
  15. Bill26

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    16029
     
  16. michael bayer

    michael bayer Formula 3

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    Yours is nearer the end of the run I wonder if Pinninfarina the opened the wells up during production?
     
  17. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

    your car looks fantastic on those borranis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    i changes the look and feel of the c4...actually looks more aggressive than the daytona!
     
  18. Bill26

    Bill26 Formula Junior

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    Thanks Pete

    WM
     
  19. Ak Jim

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    Bill26, could you please give us some more information on the 16" rims? Thanks.
     
  20. Bill26

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    #20 Bill26, Aug 23, 2010
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    The 16" (9"s & 7.5"s) 3 piece wheels I have were made by Simmons Wheels here in Australia before I bought the Borranis. At the time I was looking for a better tyre choice so the only option was to go up to 16". Tony Simmons is a friend of mine and he made them as a favour about 5 years ago. The centres were a standard Simmons B45 casting used for his bolt on wheels but were machined to take Ferrari splined hubs and standard Ferrari hub caps. They give the car a totally different look as you can see. As it turns out, the car lives on the Borranis so I am going to use these wheels for something else.

    I chose Michelin Pilot Sports as these were rated as the best available 'normal' (16") road tire available at the time. They are excellent - the difference in performance - road feel & grip etc., compared to 15" XWX's on either the Borranis or the Crommodoras, is chalk and cheese. The rolling diameter is only marginally smaller.

    Tony retired last year to play with his historic race cars so these wheels are NLA. In the 80's, Simmons a number of sets of wheels for Boxers and 308s (bolt-on). (Both 15" & 16", I think). Many are the classic BBS style and these appear from time to time.
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  21. michael bayer

    michael bayer Formula 3

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    Bill Both sets look terrific! M
     
  22. xs10shl

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    I think the reason why this is working for you is that you are using a narrow tire on the rear 9" rims. I think the typical size is a 255/60, which would probably not work without expanding the well.
     
  23. Bill26

    Bill26 Formula Junior

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    225/VR7015 XWX is the size commonly fitted to 9" rears on Daytonas.

    I think it was the original size fitted to 512 Boxers (with 9" rears)

    Regards

    WM
     
  24. geffen365gtc/4

    geffen365gtc/4 Karting

    Mar 12, 2005
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    I'm running P235/60-15's on my C4......Very full wheel wells and zero rub.

    Geffen
     
  25. 365GTC/4

    365GTC/4 F1 Rookie

    Apr 7, 2005
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    On 9 inch or 7.5 inch rims? 235 might be too wide for the standard 7.5 inch rims.
     

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