Is there some trick to taking off a 360 wheel?

Translating a 400 lb bench press to a one foot lug wrench handle is tough. Archimedes says, with a big enough lever, I could move the world. Archie, as we call him, advises you get a 4-5 foot piece of pipe to place over the lug wrench and use the leverage rather than force to provide torque to break loose the lug nuts.

 

No trick. Some people think it's necessary to use an impact or torque them down to 500lbs, so don't be shy!

 

If it was tighten correctly (about 75lbs to 90lbs of torque -depending on who you believe) then it should be fairly easy to take them off. No magic or anything that would need to be disable at all.

Please do not take this question the wrong way - but you are loosen them in the "correct" direction?

Best of Luck.

 

And of course trying to undo them with the car still on the ground, only once cracked should the car be jacked up ... but you probably know this.

Pete

 

Owner's manual says 75 ft-lbs. Should be plenty. Over-torqued bolts/nuts (in general) are a sign of un-refined wrenching and potentially damaging to the hardware.
Jes

 

Not to hijack this thread but what about putting the wheels back on? For my BMW DD, I use a wheel pin, basically a blank rolled steel pin threaded on one end the same as a wheel bolt. You thread the pin into one of the holes in the rotor hub and then slip the wheel over it. It's MUCH easier to mount the wheel and start the wheel bolts that way. I searched and could not find one on Ricambi, perhaps because it's called something else or hidden deep in the tools section. Anyone have a link or suggestion for where to find a wheel pin for a 360?

 

Ricambi has those, they work great! http://www.ricambiamerica.com/product_info.php?products_id=28

 

Just bought a set (2 of them) from a local Cornell tool truck. I think a lot of automotive stores will carry something similar.

You need thread size: 14Mx1.5.

 

I find the classic "+" shaped wheel wrench helps alot, allows you to use two hands, one on each side of it for nice even force...

 

Leverage, get a short length of pipe over the handle of the lug wrench..

It sounds like a tire service has pounded them on with an air gun...many do.

 

Yeh, even when politely instructed not to.
Nothing I like better than a flat on a busy highway and some monkey has cranked the gun up all the way and you're stuck with the OEM lug nut rounder offer.

 

I usually torque them to 550ft/lbs just to be on the safe side...don't want a wheel falling off the car and hitting me on the head while it's on the lift...lol

 

In English???

 

Most impacts are pretty accurate, but no substitute for a carefull installation......I just HATE it when the bolt snaps off......slows you way down on the reinstall.

 

Depending on where the tire/wheel was changed the last time, the lunkhead who installed it probably over-torqued it. I had the same problem with a Lexus RX350 that I owned. Took it to the dealer for service, and a few weeks later, got a flat. When they rotated the tires, the dumb-arse who put the wheels back on used the air gun and tightened them so tight The Hulk couldn't rip them loose with a 10 foot breaker bar. The car had to be towed to the dealer. I ended up with a whole new set of lugs on all 4 wheels because of the damage getting them off. And I had asked that they "hand torque" the nuts when I'd taken the car in. So much for that.

Don't mess around with a pipe over a wrench. It's too easy to strip the nut or have the pipe slip, whatever. Invest in a decent breaker bar and a properly fitted socket and have at it. I have an 18" bar from Sears. Works great, even on tough lug nuts.

 

Good point, I withdraw my suggestion!!

There's actually some lined deep sockets that baby the lug bolt plating...Griot's sells them.

 

Amazingly everyone at my tire shop is as Amurrican as we are. Hard to believe, everything else around here is Mexicans or Indian.

Side note: at the risk of getting censured by the mods... a visit to one of the most famous cheesesteak places in South Philly let me actually see the signs that put them in the news a few years ago: "You are in America - Please Order in English" and "If you can read this sign thank a teacher, if you are reading it in English thank a Marine". Owner says those who can't order in English get cheese whiz on a roll.

 

Those sockets (or a small piece of heavy duty plastic sheet) are great for protecting the finish on a valuable car but over-torqued lug nuts aren't the time to be using them!

 

people just don't understand that super overtorqueing these lub bolts can severly damage the female threads in the hub......after you price a hub replacement you will stand there with a gun while your wheels are being installed

 

Awesome, thanks! That is exactly what I was looking for, but could not find on the Ricambi site.

BTW, Ricambi also has one of those special lug sockets that protect the lug's finish and yet apply force evenly across the flat surfaces on the lug bolt. That one was a lot easier to find.

 

I planned to buy 2 long screws ($3 each) and cut the heads off. While in the process of taking measurements, I learned the lug wrench of my older 308 is exactly the diameter for lining up the wheels. Hence, you might already have the proper tool in your hands and not realize it.

 

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You're welcome. It took me a bit of searching to find it as well... I finally broke down and looked at the old invoice from when I ordered mine. I couldn't remember exactly what they were called and it didn't show up anywhere I originally tried to browse on the Ricambi site.

Probably didn't help that I was still groggy that early in the morning.