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I reviewing an earlier post, I discovered an error that I would like to correct. As a lesson to myself, never post in the wee hours of the morning....

I quote:
New drivers must use the “Short Course”. This is a three mile course and limited to cars under 175 mph. The driver must make a pass between 125 and 149 mph, to demonstrate they can control the car, but also get a feel for driving on the Salt. Those with experience at Bonneville, compare it to driving on ice, so learning to control the car is essential and comes with hands on application.
Thursday’s first run timed at 145.813, which earned Richard a “C” license. We pulled data from the MoTeC ADL3, re-packed his chute, and returned to the line.
To obtain a “B” license a speed on 150 to 174 must be observed. Richard’s second pass timed at 166.815, qualifying for the license.
To obtain an “A” license it requires that the driver pass the 2-1/4 mile mark on the track between 175 and 200. These runs are done on the “Long Course” which is 7 miles. Richard made this pass Friday morning at a speed of 175.781 at the 2-1/4 mark. Again, qualifying for his “A” license.

The 125 to 149 qualifies as a "D" category, not "C" as posted
150 to 174 is a "C"
and 175 to 199 is "B"
An "A" category is earned by driving 200 to 250
"AA" is 250 to 300
Unlimited is 300 +

I apologize for any misconception this may have caused.

Regards,

Kevin

 

Who drove the World's Fastest Ferrari ?

What was the speed ?

Which association provided the timing ?

Which model Ferrari ?

Date of the attempt ?

Place of the attempt ?

Was a Ferrari engine used ?

Which engine ?

 

Kevin or Shane - when does the team expect to be able to get the car back out to Bonneville for more runs?

Also how much of a challenge is it to convert the car back to a street configuration from its present state?

Thanks!

>8^)
ER

 

Kevin:

I am very much enjoying this thread,
and wish you well with all aspects of this project.

You might want to review a couple of small points
in your post.

a speed of 175 + MPH qualifies the car to use the LONG COURSE.
speeds below are traditionally sent to the short, or "combo" course, new for this year.

Once the CAR hits 175 or more MPH, the CAR is qualified to use the long course.

Even if the DRIVER has a "U" (Unlimited) licesne,
it is the CAR that must qualify for the long course.

A DRIVER would qualify for a "B" license with a speed of 175 MPH.
The holder of a "B" license may operate a car or a motorcycle up to,
but not over 200 MPH.

If the driver announces that he will make a "License pass" at the start line,
the SCTA officials will observe the driver for saftey and speed concerns;
directional control, parachute operation, speed, etc. If the run is "successful,"
the starter will "sign off" the time slip, and the driver may approach
the "License trailer," where he may be given a new, upgraded license.

These basic procedures have been in place for a number of years,
and the "Old Salts" are fairly familiar with them.

If these procedures have been properly followed, Richard will have a "B" license,
but will be able, on his next pass, be able to attempt the "A" license,
which will permit him 200-249 MPH.

If he passes the "A" run, he could go for his "AA" license on the second pass.

I. for instance, am the sole holder of a "AA" (250-299 MPH) license
for BOTH cars and motorcycles, having been officlially timed at 251 MPH on
a Hayabusa on my 60th birthday, and in 1992 in a car at 258 MPH,
using a 1020cc engine. (Yes, about one liter !)

At age 66, I have a CURRENT AA license..........

Scott

Bonneville record holder
first: 1973
Continuously: since 1984.

 

Scott,

Thank you for the clarification, and you are spot on with all your points. The car now has the 175 sticker in place, so it qualifies for the long course. On his third run, Richard went through the 2-1/4 at 175.781, just enough to qualify for his "B". His speed at the three mile was 179.736.

And WOW...both "AA" licenses. Anyone that can do 251 on a bike, and on his 60th birthday, has my total respect and admiration.

Thanks again for sharing your wisdom and expierience.

Kevin

 

We are making a few adjustments to the car using the data from our four runs made at Speed Week. Our intentions are to participate with the Utah Salt Flats Racers Association at their meet, September 15 through 18th. Those runs will be devoted to data gathering and fine tuning of the aero designs, suspension and drive train systems.

I quote from a previous post:

We built the car with the intention of returning it back to street use. All the race specific components such as the poly-carbonate windshield, wheels/tires, hood, rear deck, aero effects, liquid to air intercoolers, racing seat, transmission gearing and majority of the roll cage will be removed, and replaced with the stock parts.

We will lower the boost to make it more managable for street driving, so basically we end up with a mostly stock Enzo, with the benifit of twin turbos. We will leave the fire suppression system in place, as a precaution, just relocate the bottles.

One feature we built into the car is the MoTeC ADL3 dash logger. It compiles data from the potentiameters on the four coil springs, as well as GPS and g-forces. Should the front springs expierence a rapid or unusual lift above a preset speed, or it detects a g-reading that it doesn't like, the ADL3 will rev limit to 1000. Basically reacting faster than the driver to shut down the car before it can get airborne or go out of control.

Had the Enzo never been wrecked, the current modifications to the car would not been made. He (Richard) is a "Ferrari Guy" and not a "Hot Rodder" as evidenced by the other Ferraris he owns that remain stock and well documented. What do you do with a destroyed Enzo? Richard had several options, and made the choice to see just how fast he could make it go, then return it to street trim, with a few extra horses under the hood.

 

No, Bob Norwood was not involved with the project, but I would throughly enjoy speaking with him.

Kevin

 

I had heard it was the Edo guy... maybe incorrectly?

 

Does this seem slow? The guys at the mile events are running 200+. Why is this car running ~180 mph in 2 +Miles? They have a VW GTI running 208 mph.

http://www.texasmile.net/filecabinet/2010_March_TXMile_fastest_speeds_vehicles.pdf

 

what is a 1997 ford gt?

 

You can't compare tarmac and salt. The long course is where the records are made.

 

Mustang

 

I suggest you give Kevin and crew a little time with this.

Running great speeds at Bonneville is rather more complicated
that the same exercise that on asphalt or concrete.

Time will tell.............

Scott

 

Correct.

I know of no wheel-driven car that has been officlially
timed over 350 MPH on pavement.

On the salt, times over 400 MPH are
uncommon, but not unusual.

Some hot rodder from back east
who is in his 70's (maybe)
named George Poteet just last week
set a long course record over 400 MPH
with under 300 cubic inches
of Detroit motor.........

Scott

 

P 4/5 has gone over 600mph but that was in the Cargo Hold of an airplane...

 

In reverse, if it was backed into the hold ...

 

Please read the thread. Maybe just the last 10 pages or so, and get back with us.

 

Love it !

 

One of the unique features of running on the "Long Course" at Bonneville is the high speeds.

Combinue those with a coefficient of friction (traction) that
is somewhere between a wet road and a road with snow.

In 2009, one of the Bryant boys crashed their father
Tom Bryant's (Muffler Tom) classic hot rod,
right at the 5-mile mark - finish line.

I have not seen the data, but one could imaging that lifting
the throttle would put the car a little "nose down"
and tend to unload the rear.

The unloaded rear might have a chance to
come around and give the filmed results.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4SHNvNTbc

This was a fatal accident, and at a speed that was less than
the MM ENZO will be capable of at full developement........

Most of the cars run a little nose down anyway, so when they spin around,
they expose the Butt end (which is now high) to the hurricane -force winds.
Often, the force of the winds is enough to lift the back of the car into the air,
allowing the car to "fly," with the results seen in the film.

No doubt, a full belly pan,
and a "difuser" - as on the Enzo - could make this worse.
The difuser would act as a funnel, forcing air under the car,
and increasing the lift, and the tendency to fly.

That's why you go slow at first,
and get safe and comfortable.

This is what happened to my bike
( with rider Jason McVicar up)
when a tire let go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QImtEKiicus

My wife has learned to hate hearing the words: "Rider down."

I love the sport, but it does have it's moments.......

Scott

 

Here's a longer snip from the past.

You will notice the 308/288 in the beginning....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUf_aWVVl7o

Obviously, some sports cars like to "fly."

Here's another car that "didn't make it" this year,
and crashed on the course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9lGMqp1eng
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6XZz6nKCe0

The films are from the -push/chase vehicle,
and you get a feeling for the size of the place.

The two "holes" in the back end are for parachutes.

The more the better.

The car is built for speed, narrow with low frontal area,
no connering capability.

A real handful on slippery slat when things "go bad."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkZjrmX3fzQ

This shows, that as with Jason,
even motorcycles can "go sideways."

Not every crash is fatal,
but you have to prepare for the worst.

This is NOT just putting your foot down,
and pointing the car.....

Scott

 

A typo I guess LOL.

 

Many folks, especially older ones of us, (pre-internet) tend to think of Bonneville
as an obscure event that takes place in the summer sometime,
and the results appear in the January issue of HOT ROD Magizine.
Nobody quite knows how to get an entry,
where the track really is, and how things work

In a recent CAR CRAZY show, Host and potion magnate
Barry Maguire (not the musician) said that Land Speed
Racing is the fastest growing portion of the Hot Rod sport.

Barry - who is surely in a position to know, estimated
that the annual growth rate of LSR is in the neighberhood of 40 %.

40% !

This year at the Bonneville Speed Week, there were over 500 entries.

Compare to 75 at a big NASCAR race.

With an entorouge of 6 folks per vehicle, and 500 more volunteers,
that is a "Gypsy town" of maybe 3500 people.

10 miles from the nearest electrical outlet.

Need it ?

Bring it !

The pits this year were 5 miles long. 5 Miles !

And, in places 4 deep, with racers, transporters, motorhomes, etc.

Immagine that these pits were taken to Daytona,
and were parked eight (8) deep around the entire interior of the tri-oval.

This a popular, high dollar sport.....

And it has it's own heros.......

Scott

 

great info on MM Enzo and the Bonneville salt flats! anyone else have pics?