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Skip shifting in a 360???

Discussion in '360/430' started by big_luke, Aug 31, 2010.

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  1. big_luke

    big_luke Karting

    Aug 28, 2010
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    howdy fellow Ferrari owners.

    I'm new to this scene and just picked up a 99 Modena 360 with the F1 trans.

    I had a Miata before and would shift from 1st - 3rd - 5th to save wear on the clutch. as the Miata was so light, you could do so without bogging the engine.


    seems like the 360 is capable of the same as I go from 1st - 3rd - 5th - 6th by double clicking the paddle.

    anyone see anything wrong with doing this?
     
  2. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    You're probably saving the clutch, but probably wearing out the F1 pump and solenoids. :eek::eek:

    Only kidding............ahem. Of course. ;);)

    I dont see any issue with it, but why not just drive it through the gears?? More fun that way I reckon. :D:D

    If you were worried saving the clutch in the Miata, then you will sh*t bricks when the time comes to replace the clutch in your Ferrari. And the time WILL come when you have to replace your clutch in an F1. :eek::eek:

    Welcome to FerrariChat and take care now. :D:D
     
  3. Ingpr

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  4. big_luke

    big_luke Karting

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    thanks for the reply PAP

    well I do have as much fun as I can with the car. I've jetted though the gears many times already in a adrenaline pumping manner. But I do drive casually most of the time as required by law ;)

    so when I do drive it causally, I would think it would be a good idea to keep the working parts in good order as long as possible. so skip shifting is one thing I think can be done to keep these parts in working as long as possible.
     
  5. ApexOversteer

    ApexOversteer F1 Veteran

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    Are you actually saving anything? I mean, is it humanly possible to double click the paddle faster than the system can shift? How do you know it's not still completing the shift into 3rd on the way to 4th from 2nd?
     
  6. big_luke

    big_luke Karting

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    that's the other question. not 100 percent sure, BUT, the LED readout says so. goes from 1 to 3 to 5 on the display. and I hear the trans going to just 1 gear.

    so yeah, if you double click fast enough, I'm sure it's doing like I say
     
  7. Ingenere

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    You are not saving anything. This is a different game than a Miata.

    Have fun and be safe.
     
  8. big_luke

    big_luke Karting

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    reason behind your statement?
     
  9. Chupee

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    Congrats on the new ride .. That is the funniest thing I have ever read. Heres an idea put it on blocks and have your buddies spin the wheels and dont even start it . Think of all the wear and tear you could save them .. Trust me Murphys Law There are other issues coming your way ... Youll never out smart a Ferrari ... Enjoy!
     
  10. rcallahan

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    Look up the word "sequential" then get back to us! :)
     
  11. Houston348

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    Dont know what is behind some of these replies, but the answer to your question, is yes, you can flip the paddle quickly twice and it will skip a gear. I've done this mostly on down shifting, (4th to second etc) sometimes getting to cruising speed on the highway i'll go from 4th to 6th.

    I wouldnt recommend skipping gears in lower gear ranges tho, kinda pointless :)
     
  12. big_luke

    big_luke Karting

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    it would probably make more sense to go form 1st - 2nd - 4th - 6th

    still the same number of shifts and easier to go from a stop


    anyway, I know some of yall look down on this kind of behavior to this highly prized automobile. which does not surprise me. either way, I'm just trying to save stress on the parts and make the lifespan of the car last as long as possible. I don't drive the piss out of it every time I get behind the wheel.
     
  13. Financialman

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    I can see the logic in skipping a gear under low stress conditions, I have done it on occasion.It won't hurt anything unless you lug the engine.
     
  14. Joe G.

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    ooooohh myyyyy gawd
     
  15. big_luke

    big_luke Karting

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    your monocle didn't fall out and into your Cognac, did it?
     
  16. Uomo360F1

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    Drive the car the way it's supposed to be driven.
     
  17. Ingpr

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    Drive it and enjoy it gear by gear!
    Soon or later you will need to replace the clutch or whatever part you want to safe.
     
  18. PAP 348

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    Lol lol lol. :p:p
     
  19. big_guy

    big_guy F1 Rookie

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    The owner's manual specifically states that "..wait for the gear shifting to finish before requesting the next gear, thereby avoiding multiple requests in rapid succession."
     
  20. Doug_S

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    I really think clutch wear is in first, starting from a stop, and reverse. Normal shifting, not under high power, does not slip the clutch and does not subject it to much friction upon engagement.

    With that said, today merging into traffic on Rt 17 I wanted to wind it out a little and some jerk coming up on me in the lane I had to merge into accelerated, as if racing me. I had to push so I redlined it and flipped the upshift. My gawd, I'm sure I shaved a few mils off the clutch - it engaged like warp drive. Sledgehammer to the rear challenge grill.
     
  21. Doug_S

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    The other neat thing to do with an F-1 is step on the gas and downshift. say you are puttering along in 5th or 6th at 55 mph and you desire to accelerate. You press down firmly on the gas and hit the down paddle. The computer will do a perfectly executed double clutch rev matching downshift. I just love it.

    I've been shifting in sports cars all my life, but I could not touch that. In maybe one half second, under power, the F-1 puts the clutch in, shifts I guess to neutral, lets the clutch out, revs the engine to get the synch ready for the lower gear, puts the clutch back in, shifts down a gear, releases the clutch. A half second at the outside. I don;t think any person could do so as fast. Plus you get to maintain your cool and smile. For fun, if you were going 55 mph, you can do it again because you are nowhere near the redline. You could probably go to 2nd at 55 mph.
     

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