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Are you now satisfied with Alonso?

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  1. fan_of_kimi

    fan_of_kimi Rookie

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    Ciao!

    I am just asking, are you now happy that you have Alonso in Ferrari?

    He just came there because of money and Kimi had to leave. And Massa, he cannot win, he must to let Alonso get so much points he can!!

    I think (this is my opinion) Felippe would have liked that Kimi would have stayed in Ferrari, because during that time, he got the same treatment from team than Kimi. (During that time when Schumacher was in Ferrari, there was not chance that Massa would have win the race, because Shumi got all the improvements which came to Ferrari and Massa had not that kind of car that he could have win because it was all about Shumi!)

    I am sad about the situation of Felippe! Or what you think?

    I hope you are in Italy wery happy about the Alonso!? Money rules?


    I hope to see Kimi in F1 again, because I think he is the most talentive driver on the earth at the moment! Or what you think??

    Ps. Kimi is the best driver ever. Let's put every F1 driver drive in rally, we would see who would be the best? (Kimi! :)

    -Kimi rules! :)
     
  2. GTE

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    Kimi is certainly talented but he lacks in motivation and team loyalty. I am glad he is replaced by Alonso. Yes, his results are dissapointing, but since the room for improvment is so apparent, it is only natural that he actually will improve. And then, there is no stopping him.
     
  3. of2worlds

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    It seems the lure of driving for Ferrari exceeds the ability a driver has for understanding what a compromised situation he is stepping into. Alonso's abilities exceed the equipment he has been given to race with this year by Ferrari. Even the expected experience of a front line team like Ferrari to manage the small details during a race have been woefully inadequate by their previous standards.
    Kimi was paid to leave and got the best of that deal with poor Alonso stuck in a lackluster ride...
    CH
     
  4. Gilles27

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    I KNEW Raikkonen was trolling FChat:D
     
  5. bigodino

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    Has Kimi won anything yet in rallying? Kubica just did. Sign of a very talented driver. Ferrari shouldn't go with either Alonso or Kimi, I think they should have hired Kubica.
     
  6. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    +1 Alonso is over rated and name a clean pass on Felipe this year so far. Certainly he needed help in Germany :) Kubica has done wonders with a team and car that had less funding than when Alonso was there last year. For all the hype about Alonso Kubica has had far more impact overall.

    I can only imagine the whining and posturing if Robert Kubica was wearing red next to Alonso. Alonso has yet to have a serious in-team competitor other than LH and we all know how well he handled that one. Nothing like running away from the competition eh Fernando :)
     
  7. Ney

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    Thought the same thing as I was reading......Welcome Kimi to FChat! Have a double Vodka for me before your 2nd post! :)
     
  8. fan_of_kimi

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    Think about his career!! First year in Ferrari, Kimi won the F1 Championchip. And Ferrari manufactory...
    The second year, bad luck, car stopped, engine problem. Still, he helped Massa that Massa could win the champioship, which he lost.

    The last year. Ferrari stopped developed the car after Massa injured.
    Still Kimi won in Spa and drove fantastic races in cas which had stopped developed the car.

    Many wondered, how Kimi can drive so fast, even if Ferrari does not put any euro for developing the car. But Kimi showed that it is possible (there is no driver who could that).

    And because of huge of money, Alonso came there. Different rules (Massa do not get the same treatment like before) and still Alonso do not lead the championship. And does not win.

    If in sports ever, have to try to make results by the force of money - it will not work out.

    Sorry, but I am happy that Alonso & Ferrari does not win any championship during this year.

    Let's put Alonso and Kimi drive in F1 and rally, we would see the results :)

    Who is the best driver (Kimi have talents in F1, rally and many other motorsport activities, which other F1 drivers does not have any of them)?

    But back to the F1, if Kimi returns back, he will not return by money, but by talent which he has in many field of motorsport.

    -Kimi rules in motorsport! :)
     
  9. fan_of_kimi

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    Wery funny! Check my ip, if you want!

    I think you know nothing about trolling. If anyone comes from Finland to this chat you think "it is Kimi trolling".

    Let me say: Kimi does not need trolling. His results shows his talent in motorsport!!

    Kimi rules in motorsport :)
     
  10. Barrister

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    Kimi Raikkonen worked out the ultimate sweetheart deal with Ferrari.

    He got paid up front!!

    Kimi will make roughly $20 million this year - the same exact amount as Lewis Hamilton.

    So Ferrari is paying Fernando Alonso nearly $40 million, Massa $20 million and Raikkonen $20 million.

    And all the while Kimi races rally cars for RED BULL and collects a check from them as well!!

    I think Kimi must have secret photographs of Montezemolo in a very "compromising" position - possibly with animals.
     
  11. fan_of_kimi

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    -Kubica has not won anything in rallying (If we speak about real rallying).
    I we would put him and Kimi in same kind of rally car, we would see the difference.


    So, please, check your backrouds before you put any false comments here.

    Moderators should check what you just wrote about Kubica?
     
  12. bigodino

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    http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=41911

    Now you show me what kind of rally class wins Kimi has had so far.
     
  13. Barrister

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    Dude. It's just a forum.

    There will be no background checks. We aren't buying guns here brother.

    Simmer down a bit. :)
     
  14. fan_of_kimi

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    I can see what your point is.

    Moderators are laughing your stories about trolling.
    Kimi is in Japan, driving in rally world championship race.

    But I just wonder, you do not answer my questions? Or maybe you have nothing to say (against the truth), you just concentrate on trolling.

    I thought that this forum would be highly moderated and motitored, but maybe I was wrong?

    -Kimi rules in motorsport :) (believe or not) :)



     
  15. Barrister

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    Where is the emoticon running around like a crazy dude when you need it??

    I think that Alonso has been a huge disappointment for Ferrari.

    Anything less than a World Championship is a disappointment for Ferrari.

    So your question kind of answers itself.
     
  16. fan_of_kimi

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    I think that eveyone who watches motorsport (F1, World Rally Championship) understand that the rally which Kubica won cannot compare with World Rally Championship races.

    It is like compare someone who won carting race that he would be wonderful F1 driver.


    Ps. Why you hate finnish drivers?? because they have been best in history??


     
  17. Gilles27

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    Haha--you may want to run that opinion by the Brazilians. Or the British.
     
  18. fan_of_kimi

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    If someone (Kimi Räikkönen) has talent in F1, World Rally Championship, snowmobile driving etc. why we just cannot admit that he is just a talentive person in motorsport?

    Is it because of envy?

    Kimi has said that he has no interest for F1 at the moment.

    There is no driver before, who have won F1 championship and World Rally Championship.

    Maybe Kimi is trying to make the history??


    -Kimi is the best driver in motorsport field at the moment :) believe or not.
     
  19. Barrister

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    I know where you are coming from.

    I am the most handsome man on FChat. But nobody will admit it!!
     
  20. fan_of_kimi

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    I am very glad that someone (you) recognise that I am from Finland.

    And I do not question that you are the most handsome man in FChat!


    Ps. Maybe the others are jealous about you and that is why they do not recognise you!


    -Kimi rules in motorsport field! :)
     
  21. bigodino

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    I don't hate Finnish drivers, you're missing the point. You're saying Kimi is the best ever in motorsport. By your logic he should be winning rallys, be it in a lower class or, as by his own choosing, in the WRC class. Allthough he does a decent job, he's no WRC material, sorry. There have been many great Finnish rally champions and I think rallying needs more skills than F1. But When it comes to Ferrari, I think both Alonso and Kimi are less skilled than Kubica.
    That's my opinion and has nothing to do with hate. Why would I hate anyone?
     
  22. 308 milano

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    LOL!
     
  23. Barrister

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    #23 Barrister, Sep 10, 2010
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    No. It's probably because I am actually a big fat dude.
     
  24. fan_of_kimi

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    Many of rally WRC (World Championship Drivers, who have won that title many times) said that they could not imagine that Kimi would drive so fast.

    It usually takes long time to learn to drive from notes. But Kimi has showed that he has an unique talent to drive in gravel and in icy roads, even if he has not learned the notes (which are the most important things in rally to driver).

    So, let's say all together: Kimi Räikkönen rules in motorsport :)
     
  25. Barrister

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    Alright, back to reality.

    I agree that Kimi is a great F1 driver.

    I have no opinion of him as a rally driver because I don't really follow it.

    But - to be frank - he lucked into his championship in 2007.

    He didn't win it as much as Lewis Hamilton lost it.

    And the only reason that Ferrari won the constructor's championship was because McLaren was disqualified over spygate.

    I don't hate the Finns. This is just my opinion.
     

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