Scuderia Glickenhaus P4/5 Competizione

Jim--is it possible to pair the first design (i.e., with the curvy vertical mount) with a horizontal stabilizer? In other words, simply run a carbon piece from the top of the mirror to the side of the A pillar. Or does that produce aero problems?

 

Isn't there anything in the MG Mitten catalog that would fit?

 

You should be the new president of Ferrari because your cars are better than this what actually build guys from Maranello

 

new California is the part of Dream? this is the way that Ferrari should go?

 

Ferrari made 2+2 Convertibles in the past... why not now?

All the best,
Andrew.
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The 2+2s have out sold their contemporary 2 seaters quite frequently.

 

Are the Mirrors mandated by the spec?

If not then go with cameras and a large 7 to 11 inch display inside car with panaramic view from 3 pinhole cameras across the rear of the car and forget the mirrors and the aero and vibration issues.

Or if mirrors are required, do mirrors that are optimized for Aero. In other words they might be the smallest mirrors ever and actually they are more like two wings for down force. In fact thinking a little out-of-the-box you could have them pivot so you could actaully lock them down for maximum effect at each track. Since they don't move during the race or any time the car is moving, they should be legal. Oh, and of course keep the cameras with the panaramic view of the rear so that you do have adequate or rather enhanced rear view in addition to your ultimate aero mirrors

 

Are you saying mirrors will do a better job than high tech panoramic cameras?

Or that you have to have mirrors according to the class specifications?

My point was simply that you could put 2 or 3 cameras or maybe even more on the car that would project a panoramic view, even 3D view on to a display inside the car so the driver could see everything outside the car and not have to deal with a mirror that is vibrating, too small, not as aero as no mirror at all and worse case, in racing mirrors sometimes fall off or get knocked off.

Once the "view" is taken care of via the cameras, you are free to use the 'mirrors' as winglets, that is if they are indeed providing some downforce or other aerodynamic advantage, if not just get rid of them or choose the one that has the best aero with no consideration to "view" at all.

 

So I am guessing a heads up helmet display is out of the question.

 

Is there any reason you can't have mirrors and multiple technological supplements?

The regulations say you have to have mirrors and what they see, but do the regulations specifically forbid how many supplementary driver awareness aids such as cameras you have? You could even install parking sensors for when someone is really close - or would that not be particularly helpful?

All the best,
Andrew.

 

Not to beat a dead horse, but banning a safety aid that has no effect on speed of the vehicle would be a pretty tough thing to ban. Mirrors and or cameras arranged to give the pilota safety information are not something that should be banned. But you bring up a major problem with racing today, it is no longer innovative and therefore no longer relevant.

Actually now there are 3D cameras that can output 3D images on to a stereographic screen, so there are no need for 3D shutter glasses. In a panoramic arrangement it would give the Pilota a true sense of depth and distance between his/her racecar and all other racecars or other objects around the car. It would be a major step forward in safety, unfortunately vibrating mirrors don't do the job anymore at the speeds and over all the surfaces that are raced today. The different racing organizations should be ashamed at not adopting something as simple and inexpensive as a camera or cameras in place of mirrors.

Note to racing organizations, look at road cars with lane change technology, distronic speed control systems, these technologies are now fairly well established technologies that are relatively cheap and easy to implement, they augment mirrors in road cars, why because at the speeds cars are now traveling, mirrors are not enough.

I attended the MotorSport Hall of Fame induction ceremony recently, and Chip Ganassi gave a speech in which he claimed racing has lost its way. "It use to be the test bed for new technologies that made cars safer, more effecient and now we need to make them more environmentally friendly too." But the racing series are all impeding innovation, by implementing rules that are not well thought out. He said, "Innovation is the only thing that makes racing relevant." Wow, the crowd which was made up of all types of racing peolpe from all different racing disciplines gave him a standing ovation. All of the award recipients acknowledged that Chip was right on and if we don't make racing relevant again it will soon cease to exist.

I agree with Chip, racing must be relevant to get the younger generations to participate. Innovation is what makes racing relevant. When we have the opportunity to innovate and don't do it, well it won't be long before racing dies anyway. You may have noticed the crowds are down at every racing series and most disturbingly, the younger generatios are not coming to racing events, why? Why should they, we haven't made racing relevant for a long time.

Sorry for the rant but racing organizations that ban innovation especially on safety issues should be banned themselves. Oh wait, they slowly are doing that job for us

 

Keep it simple Jim ...

Pete

 

Can't wait to find out who that will be ... (but that will be one lucky guy ...)

 

WOW Jimmy!!!

Thanks for the pics!

The plenum on that thing is HUGE. I'm assuming your running ITB's under there?