002 back to #78

Yes. It's a light.

 

North shore, western Long Island??? just one man's opinion tongascrew

 

Moving along...
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I'll bite:

What are all the patches on the frame-rails? Is it from heating up the frame to take the effects of 60years of gravity and hard work out?

 

Yes. Chassis is now correct and Drive train is true and correctly positioned so that body can be corrected to how she originally was in 1947.

 

Clever people at work ...

Pete

 

Very interesting pix of this frame. The center tubes supporting the engine mounts look perfectly round. The outside frame rails are oval and almost look concave along the sides. Or is this just a reflection in the photo? It may be to late but I would be great to remove the engine and as many of the bolted on parts as possible and weigh the frame.It certainly looks as if it should be one of the "super lite" frames as requested by Ferrari from GILCO. More pix of the full frame front to back please. just one man's opinion tongascrew

 

Body being fitted/adjusted to straightened frame.
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Awesome. I love seeing this in bits and coming together again. It's not often we get to see the technical origins of the marque in their naked glory. Cheers.

 

This looks very old: Mille Miglia 1949.
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Again we was delighted with a "new born";beutyfull workers, but I fell an expecially "Love"in those "works"...they seems pieces of steel, iron but you,
Mr.Napolis, are able to make their Soul come back to us!
Even if not all of as will be able to hear his first breath, we are with your efforts.
Thanks.
Alessandro

 

Here's a copyrighted Photo that we hadn't seen before that shows the underside of 002's nose at the Turin GP which is very interesting.
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Any updates Jim? I love this chick..

 

I'm heading over in a few weeks. I should have more photos then. She's moving along.

 

From "125 and 159" thread:

A question for Napolis:
The 002(C) engine has the thinwall bearings? I don't know if that engine is original, but perhaps you know the original bearings used in this car.

I ask this because in "Tipo 166" book, in the Lampredi interview, he said that they used the thinwall bearings only after he was returned in Ferrari, so at least on november '47 (so in the period of 166 developement), but he said that those bearings were used at first on the 125. I don't understand what is the correct version.

 

The engine is original but it's been rebuilt with modern bearings.

 

So you don't know which were the original bearings?

 

I don't follow the single seater Formular cars but Lampredi may have been refering to the 125 blown GP engines that were under development. The objective was to be compeditive, power wise, with the Alfa 158/159 engines, which never was never realised. Lampredi then convinced Ferrari that an engine designed to the optional 4.5 normally aspirated formular was the way to go. Lampredi predicted that the power from this engine would be competitive and the car could run considerably farther between pit stops. All proved to be true.It would be interesting to know what bearings Alfa was using to get power close to 400 HP at a reliable near 7000RPM. Ramponi was an important part of the prewar 158 Alfa project at the Scuderia and being in England during the war was, I am sure, quick to appreciate the thinwall technology. You have to wonder without thinwall technology whether the Ferrari V12s would have been successful as soon as they were. just one man's opinion tongascrew

 

The Alfa's weren't V12's, they weren't pushing bearing width constraints that the V12 engine has. So it wasn't a problem for them, they had plenty of axial width and that reduced the bearing pressure loading to what they could live with.

 

I have them packed away somewhere but don't have time to look now.

 

These are tipo 166 bearings anyway, thus give no info about the original 159 ones.

 

This can be the most likely explanation to Lampredi's strange affirmation.
So thinwall bearings should been used first on 125GP and 166Inter (SC).
MPC

 

I thought the first Ferrari to use thinwall bearings was the Thinwall Special owned by Vanderwell.

As there were Ferraris built before (ie. 125s) that surely means they did not use thinwall bearings?

Pete

 

I was going to type the same thing but assumed the collected knowledge of this place was weighing against me. I always thought that was the whole point of the Thinwall Special...to show the superiority of the thinwall bearings over the stock ones?

Cris