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Up or Down Vote: Is the 246GT(S) a Ferrari?

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Is the 246GT(S) a Ferrari

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  1. UroTrash

    UroTrash Four Time F1 World Champ Consultant Owner

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    We all know the history.

    We all know the origin of the engine/body etc.

    We all know the endless debate.

    Bottom line, no waffling, straight up yes or no vote: IS THE 246GT(S) A FERRARI?*








    * No waffling!

    *** mods please leave in "Vintage", I'd like to get other than Dino-guy thoughts.
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  2. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    I go back and forth on this... but voted no tday.

    Enzo didn't badge it as a Ferrari.

    A Tudor watch is not a Rolex.
     
  3. Daytonafan

    Daytonafan F1 Rookie

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    Tough one as this is a question of branding. The cars were built in Maranello and sold, by Ferrari dealers so the answer to me is yes.

    To counter the Tudor/ Rolex argument, if you buy an Emporio Armani jacket, do you say it is an Emporio Armani or an Armani one, bet not too many would say the former.
     
  4. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    A rose by any other name DOES smell as sweet.
    The statute of limitations has expired and the prodigal may return.
     
  5. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    If Enzo had badged it a Dino Ferrari your analogy would be accurate. Unfortunately he didn't and IMHO my Tudor / Rolex analogy is more accurate, again IMHO.

    Shouldn't matter though... it's a spectacular car.
     
  6. UroTrash

    UroTrash Four Time F1 World Champ Consultant Owner

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    Why "unfortunate"?

    One thing for sure, a Dino is a much rarer car than a Ferrari. :):):)
     
  7. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    Great points.

    To me I would love to have a cavallino staring back at me from the steering wheel center.

    When I was considering my 1st Ferrari, my wife asked "what about a Dino?" I love the car, but I wanted a Ferrari. Irrational? Perhaps... The badges mean something to me.
     
  8. kare

    kare F1 Rookie Consultant

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    For me Dino is a great car with strong connection to Ferrari - but adding Ferrari badges or calling it a Ferrari is another story. You can add Ferrari badges to a Toyota if you wish - and even call your Toyota a Ferrari with the same result: not much. If that changes your attitude towards the car, you are a fool.

    For me a Dino deserves to be called by its real name. Best wishes, Kare
     
  9. Ferraripilot

    Ferraripilot F1 World Champ Owner Project Master

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    Couldn't the Dino badge be contrued as a Ferrari badge considering Dino was, after all, his son? Well wait, that doesn't work as the front engined Dino's would have to be considered as well........

    Gosh I guess it's not technically a Ferrari. Why on Earth do club event and concours have them park in the Ferrari area then?
     
  10. italiancars

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    It depends on how you view Ferraris. If you believe that the last REAL Ferrari was the Daytona then no a Dino isn't a Ferrari. If you believe that everything built after the Daytona are Ferraris, then the answer is yes it is a Ferrari.

    Joe C.
     
  11. Ney

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    Is a Buick the same as a Pontiac? Is an Audi also a Lamborghini? How about a Ford also being a Lincoln?

    The Dino is a seperate and distinct marque, certainly with strong connection to Ferrari SpA. BTW, the front engined "Dino", both Coupe and Spider was a Fiat Dino and is properly badged as a Fiat, even though final assembly (engine installation) was done at the Ferrari factory.
     
  12. Smiles

    Smiles F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    Didn't the Federal Government say the Dino was not a Ferrari?
    Dinos with a Federal VIN period begin with ZDF while Ferraris are ZFF.
     
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    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    While I consider the Dino to be a Ferrari in all but name adding badges is not appropriate.
     
  14. italiancars

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    The Federally mandated 17 digit vin codes where the country of origin was included in the vin did not begin until 1980.
     
  15. Hawkeye

    Hawkeye F1 Veteran Owner Rossa Subscribed

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    These great cars should be celebrated in their own right. And by trying to attach the Ferrari badge -in conversation or in practice- takes away from the car. The story is much more interesting without the prancing horse and the car is wonderful enough to stand on its own. I think that if they could talk, they would say proudly they are a Dino. Price would probably be higher as well.
     
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    Of course Dinos are Ferraris, but IMO should never be badged as such. Enzo put Alfredo's engine into the car and gave it his nickname. This was not a business decision. The business decision would have been to put "Ferrari" all over it. Today, calling it by the given name and leaving those Dino badges is simply following in the wishes of a loving father immortalizing his son.

    Edit: Yes, I know that is the romantic view on things, but what is Ferrari without such romantic, emotional views?
     
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  17. Ashman

    Ashman Three Time F1 World Champ Owner Silver Subscribed

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    +1

    Could not agree with you more on all points.
     
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    Isn't there a specific model discussions section on this forum called 206/246?
    This never struck me as out of place, so yes, it's a Ferrari.
     
  19. Napolis

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    The bottom line remains that legally a car is what it's chassis plate says it is not what it's badges say it is.
     
  20. VIZSLA

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    When is anything Ferrari related that simple, and when did we start leaving such important matters to the DMV?
    ;)
     
  21. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ Honorary Owner

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    Try telling customs you're importing a Dino...
     
  22. Dom

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    +1 from a Ferrari Dino 308 Gt4 owner.
     
  23. VIZSLA

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    I look forward to having such a problem ;)
     
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  25. UroTrash

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    Thanks a lot Wayne.


    Edit: It appears about 69% might think it appropriate to stay in Vintage.
     
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