from Brawn: "If you take the telemetry data in fast corners or his reaction time when the car breaks away, I dont see any difference. There hes still the old Michael. But in the slow corners he cannot make full use of the tyres as Nico can. Nico has put the bar very high in this respect." All this conjecture about "Michael is too old" or, "Michael has lost it and he was a fool to come back" I have always taken as the media capitalizing in Michael's comeback. Publicity is publicity and Michael sells as he remains the most popular driver on the grid. Brawn's comments regarding Michael's telemetry in the fast corners was something I was always very curious about and have been unable to locate any real commentary about the previous Michael compared to modern Michael. Finding that his telemetry has pretty much not changed in the fast corners and reaction time-wise tells me the man is definitely NOT too old or slow or whatever to be doing this and further proves the issue with his driving style and the tires. Nico is driving through the issue and seems to not be affected by this. What I am curious about is will the correction of this issue benefit Michael more or Nico? I believe Michael as he is the one actually having serious issues with this, not Nico. Regardless, I can't wait for this season to be over to see what Brawn and MS have up their collective sleeve - as they always have something.
Do you have a link to this statement from Ross? I had a pdf on Schumacher and Barrichellos telemetry on Silverstone. Massive difference to be honest because Barrichello is a right foot braker and Schumi is not. I will see if i can find it for you.
I am going to assume Ross is being truthful. Its good to see that MS still has the high gut check level required for fast corners and that his reaction time is good. These are the solid basics from which to build. Slow corners are a learned skill and practice time is what helps here. No practice = little improvement. Perhaps sim time can teach the old dog new tricks.
I just don't think he can do it with these tires. He is relying on next season to fix this. According to Brawn, many of the other cars on the grid haven't this issue as Michael is not the only driver who drives like this.
I have seen the telemetry difference between the two. They are very different drivers yet surprisingly they both managed to do very well in the various Ferrari's over the years. Good car is a good car I guess. http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2010/9/11324.html
i remember reading that after seeing those specs RB changed his driving style to left foot braking. this was years ago, obviously.
Yup, I think there is very little drivers today if any that right foot brakes. What would be interesting to see is Hamiltons telemetry since he has a different driving-style than others.
The advantages all the drivers have apart from Schumacher will be gone for next year meaning everybody have to learn a new tyre. And the Mercedes was originally built for Jenson Button which is the opposite of Schumis driving style. Button likes it very understeery.
very correct on both points, but I believe the new tire/tyre (however you people spell it lol) situation is not going to be as paramount as some might believe. I certainly hope Pirelli can bring more mechanical grip to the situation at hand with the skinny tires though. Everyone will benefit from a safer more controllable car.
With a sequential tranny there is absolutely no advantage to right foot brake. Use both feet not one back and forth. Even the old clutch boxes are best driven left foot is one can time the gear changes.
I don´t know really, different tires have different characteristics and all the teams will get a chance to try them out on their car after the Abu Dhabi race. But i agree, i hope they produce more grip and more wear so we don´t see stuff like Vettel on Monza where he basically drove the whole race with one set of tires.
The main reason is that it takes longer time to move your right foot from the gas and on to the brake when you want as little delay as possible between gas/brake. Probably the reason they told Barrichello to change his style.
Then they will just push the speeds higher to the limit of that tire and were back to square one. Ross has said they will build the car as the engineers deem fast and hand the cars to the drivers. None of this "I'll build it your way" stuff. They absolutely have to build it the fast way (whatever that is in their opinion) than hand the car to the driver and say make it work. The drivers can tune from that point.
Hopefully! It may just level the playing field a little..... I dunno 'bout that - OK, everything is relative and the "consensus" is Mike likes 'em "twitchy" & "pointy" whereas Jens' doesn't - But that's a long way from "understeer", which is inherently slow - I don't think Ross built an understeering car. Getting to my point, Speeds pre race show last week interviewed a few of the jockey's about how they'd like the rules changed. Jenson said wider, grippier front tires so that the damn thing will turn in properly........ Cheers, Ian
I recall him saying that along with wanting a 1000 bhp V10 again. The truth of the matters is all drivers and teams would like more mechanical grip, but some drivers rely on it more than others.
Forgot about that one, in the PDF i had they said that Copse corner was where this really showed to be effective, (i know it´s effective on other corners too but it showed very clearly there) I´m sorry i should have used better words. I didn´t mean that Jenson likes a car that understeers, because obviously you wont get far if it understeers. But the characteristics when the car let´s go is more to the understeer than oversteer. Some like neutral cars, Schumi likes that planted frontend and Button a planted rear. Button is a very smooth driver so having a car that wants to over-steer when you push it does not work for him. Michael on the other hand likes it that way. You can see in his telemetrys that he steers more than other through corners, fine fine adjustments all the time through the corner. And the Bridgestones front tyres are developed with KERS in mind so that might explain the weird characteristics these tyres have. The other drivers have figured out a way to use the tyres to it´s maximum in slower corners, Schumi hasn´t so it will be interesting to see what Pirelli can come up with. They are about 1 second from Bridgestones tyres in terms of laptimes they said.
No need to apologize - I knew what you were getting at. I was just a little surprised that given the belief in the peanut gallery he specifically wanted more front end grip. (and more power - I'm getting to like him more and more!) If true, I'm seriously impressed! - My understanding is they're working on construction rather than compounds thus far - This suggests they could get much quicker if "desired"..... Maybe I'm not yet ready to try and tear up next years bet with Is!..... Cheers, Ian
I think KERS next year is going to add a little something to put those complaints partially to bed. We'll see if it works this time.
Pirelli themselves, but it was on the GP2 car. Give me a minute and i will get you the link. I read it on Autosport.com, I´m checking right now but in the archives since i read it a few days ago i believe. EDIT: I´m sorry for the wrong information, It was not a GP2 car but Toyotas 2009 F1. Link: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86879
