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how do you value f-cars?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by hype96, Oct 6, 2010.

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  1. hype96

    hype96 Rookie

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    how do you figure out what an f car or other exotics are worth?
     
  2. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    There's several value guides....

    Ferrari market Letter
    Cavallino
    eBay sales results
    FCA Newsletter listings

    ...or you count the money in your hand, as it drives away!!!
     
  3. Rosso328

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    Any car is only worth what somebody is willing to pay for it. Often, that is quite a bit less than the owner trying to sell it wants to be.

    So, when looking at 'comps' only pay attention to selling prices, not asking prices.
     
  4. PAP 348

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    +328. :D:D
     
  5. David_S

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    Toss it on eBay starting at 99 cents with no reserve - that will quickly establish true market value.
     
  6. mwr4440

    mwr4440 Five Time F1 World Champ
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    They are MONEY PITS ....... :(


    Someone should be paying us to keep them on the road .........
     
  7. PV Dirk

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    I used craigslist to determine insurance value which is an asking price and I could replace my car for that or less. Otherwise I chose to believe my cars value to be zero. That way I don't hesitate to use it. The ebay response is the truest sense of finding value.
     
  8. blackbolt22

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    If the condition of the car, options, mileage, service records all being equal, then recent selling prices, not asking prices, dictate the market.
     
  9. donv

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    For what purpose?

     
  10. BIGHORN

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    Ferrari Market letter and Cavallino mag are good general indicatior
     
  11. toggie

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    It is a simple formula, market value = trade-in value + $20,000. ;)
     
  12. GrayTA

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    I dont trust the "ebay" guide. Yeah, you can find cheaper cars there and such, but you really get "bottom of the barrel" pricing too. If I were to sell my car I would NOT put it on Ebay - just because I know that it would not get to what I think the car is worth. Therefore, the two are incompatible.

    What would the car sell for in face to face negotiations would seem like a fairer assessment of the cars true value.


    PDG
     
  13. cyclisto

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    However, I do believe that an Ebay No Reserve is the best market gauge for pricing....as long as you market the car adequately. I did not have the time, car salesmanship, or patience to properly prepare my car for top dollar.

    Ebay No Reserve is the purest market. Similar to a stock exchange.

     
  14. BigTex

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    Cavallino has been obsereved to value some models that no longer exist.
    Making it somewhat hypothetical.

    Ferrari Market Letter tracks actual reported sales, making it the industry standard.

    There's a NADA Blue Book on Special Interest Vehicles, no idea how it stacks up...
     
  15. jjmalez

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    Just for fun, I pulled out some old issues of Ferrari Market Letter. Love the 1989 Ferrari "bubble" Vol 14 number 25 9 December 1989.

    Random listings;

    3.2 Mondial Cabriolet, s/n XXXXX (1988 USA model) Red with tan interior. 4,400 miles. $200,000 FIRM.

    Testarossa, s/n XXXXXX (1988 USA model) Fly yellow with tan leather. Perfect inside, outside and mechanically. 1,100 miles $310,000.

    308 GTSi, s/n XXXXX (1980 USA model) Red with tan leather. Absolutely as new, not a scratch or chip, only 18,000 miles. $85,000 FIRM.


    :)
     
  16. chris marsh

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    Can this be real?????????????
     
  17. BigTex

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    Right after Enzo died, (1988) the future speculative value was built in....

    I recall in particular a white fibreglass 308GTB with blue interior, $115,000.

    I bought in a few years later when they (steel NON CAT) started dipping below $30K......
     
  18. BIGHORN

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    yes the 89 prices were real and many were sold (and unfortunatly bought) at those #s. I have a friend who bought 3 $250K testarossa's and another who sold a $650K Daytona.

    Those were in good $s not todays monopoly money
     
  19. blackbolt22

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  20. AceMaster

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    In my opinion, it is not a monetary issue but rather a sentimental and passion issue - I love my 348, it is a dream come true.
     
  21. hype96

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    thanks guys. very helpful as usual. im a complete newb at f-cars just trying to get well educated so i know what i am doing when it come time to buy one in the next year or so.
     
  22. hype96

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    when it comes to buying a f-car. what does your general inspection consist of for private party and dealer?
     
  23. Grigio 308

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    That's simple - by "smiles per gallon"!!
     
  24. roadracer311

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    To me, the ebay number seems closer to the trade in value. It's the "I'd buy it, shooting from the hip" number. It's the "sell it in a week" number. I think the retail asking price is typically $10k more than the ebay number, and the actual retail selling price is about $5k more than what you could get in a week or three on ebay.

    The thing that blows my mind about those 1989 selling prices, is what those prices would be if adjusted for inflation.
     

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