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458 Challenge pre-Annoucement Pics from Japan

Discussion in 'Challenge/GT Cars/Track' started by spitfire691, Oct 7, 2010.

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  1. spitfire691

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  2. bcwawright

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    Great pics Hideki...many thanks for sharing.
     
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  3. Ferraripilot

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    Looks like it has a ton of positive camber dialed in on the back wheels!
     
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    Great stuff!
     
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  5. FerrariMC

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    Thank you so very much for the pics, the 458 Challenge car looks great!! What a rare glimpse into the unveiling, it's awesome! Just wanted to thank you for all of the pics, very detailed too! Take care. If you have anymore, please post them. Grazie mille! Ciao!

    Mark
     
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    Thanks very much for posting!

    Air conditioning? Wow, I wonder if Grand-Am will still make USA cars run with no driver window?

    Did you notice the tire sizes?

    How was the transmission?

    Can you compare the car to a 430C?

    Thanks

    Mark
     
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  7. morrischen

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    458 Challenge Spec:

    4.499L V8 engine
    Maximum power: 570 CV@ 9,000 rpm
    Maximum torque: 540 Nm@6,000 rpm
    F1 dual clutch transmission 7 gears
    Dimensions: 4,527mm(L) x 1,937mm(W) x 1,163mm(H)
    Wheelbase: 2,650mm
    Front track:1,692mm
    Rear track: 1,616mm
    Dry Weight: 1,220 kg
    Weight distribution: 42% Front- 58% rear
    Electronic control: E-Diff3, F1-Trac, Three position manettio(wet, dry, TC off)
    Fuel tank capacity: 29.8 US gal
    Tryes: Front 255/650-19 x 9J Rear 305/690-19 x 11J
    Breaks:Front 398 x 38mm Rear 380 x 34mm
    Maximum speed: 310 km/h
    Maximum lateral acceleration: 1.6g
     
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    Mille grazie!

    Gr. Martin
     
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  9. morrischen

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    Lap times vs 430 Challenge:


    Fiorano: 458Challenge---1'16.5 / 430Challenge--1'18.1
    Mugello: 458Challenge--1'54.7 / 430Challenge--1'57.5
    Monza: 458Challenge--1'50.9 / 430Challenge--1'53.5
     
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  14. fingolfin

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    Maybe I'm alone here, but I haven't liked the liveries they reveal challenge cars in lately. The 599 GTO paint job made it look like a Dale Earnhardt Jr. stock car, and this looks like something a kid whipped up in Gran Turismo.

    I love the car, and I think it will look excellent on track. I can't wait to see Risi campaign one, but I wish they would be revealed in a classic Ferrari Livery, or just without a racing paint job (that's how companies always unveil prototype racers).
     
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  15. Ferraripilot

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    They coming out with a GT class of this car soon as well??
     
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    Very nice pictures, thanks for sharing, but the cost of racing it in Asian Challenge series is prohibitively expensive. I was quoted 54 million Japanese Yen by Japan dealer for car plus entry and transport with consumables such as tires NOT included. This works out to be US$655K per season plus consumables and possible crash damage cost. Hong Kong dealer quoted something similar.

    For that kind of money it's not very good value for the kind of racing you get IMHO. GT3, GT2, or even LMS comes to mind. Has anybody else been quoted costs for Europe or North America Challenge series?
     
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    That's abount the same for a US budget, no?
     
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    John what are you doing?
    Any interest in in a 458CH? :)
     
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    i rode in a normal 458 with the man that set that 1.57.5 time around mugello in a 430c...and he said that he was very close to that time in this street version....so these times are completely believable.
     
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    WOWOW..how costs have gone up
     
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    No wonder costs are going up.

    In the photo posted, buttons/switches for an for AC and AC fan?? Talk about comfort under pressure.
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  22. Jaffster

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    Not surprised about the AC...in some series AC is being mandated. Very dangerous the temperatures some race car cockpits get up to. In reality it probably does not hold back this masterpiece motor much :)
     
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    Very true. In Asia during summer cockpit temperature goes up to 130 to 140 F. You'll fry your brain trying to race without some sort of cooling.
     
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    You need helmet cooling too when somebody tries to block you
     
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