Enzo engine dies at Laguna Seca

So did you get an estimate? I'm guessing 30-40K. Am I close? Also, who is doing the work?

Thanks for sharing this, btw. So sorry about your misfortune. Hope your back on the track soon!

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This is very true.

Good luck with this and I'm sure it will be over and the car back home before you know it.

 

This is a painful thread to read - I can only imagine what it was like to start it. Bill, my heart genuinely goes out to you.

Will you be going by the shop during the rebuild, or just keeping phone tabs on the progress? I'd love to see pictures of the numero interno and other random stampings. The engine out is the only time those things can be seen.

 

+1

 

Sorry to hear about this.

 

Aye, heavy duty.

 

+2

 

Pep Boys short and long blocks for this vehicle are available.

 

Bill, I am happy to hear no one was hurt and that the car will be fine, even if expensive to repair. You are my hero driving it as it was designed to be! Your attitude about it is excellent... 'a bit upsetting!' (unbelievable). I remember running over an aluminum ladder (at 80mph) that had fallen off a painters truck right in front of my 928S4 in the 1st week I bought it.... no where to go, the ladder exploded in my rearview mirror...simultaneously hearing the flat bottom metal lattice structure under the engine compartment peel back like a can of spam, the engine seizing and then pulling over on the shoulder...thankfully $1,200 later and all was good again.... that was '89 and I still have the vivid/livid memory. .. come on, man, you had to have cursed or something worse!! Wishing you the best of luck in getting back in the Enzo saddle soon. Keep us updated. With smiles, David

 

Bill - not that I'm tell you how to take care of these things, but are you sure you're making enough of a fuss with Ferrari themselves? You're taking it a little too well IMO.

There have been a few Enzo engine failures here in the UK and the owners, after being fairly and understandably mad, didn't pay a penny. The old engine was lifted out, and a new one was shipped over in a crate from Italy.
Ferrari here were seriously embarrassed that this could happen to their flagship and did everything to suppress the news but it came out anyway. All of it was done under goodwill. Warranty or not - didn't come into the equation...

I'm incredibly surprised that they even dared to suggest their may be a "price" associated with a rebuild. It didn't happen here in the UK mate.

 

Bill

So Sorry to hear of this. After a great weekend with everyone, I'm sure this was the last thing you needed. Let me know if I can do anything for you.

Dan

 

Stuff breaks. Even stuff made by Ferrari. Don't ask how I know.

Anyway, that's not all that bad of an injury. Upsetting at some level to be certain, but that's VERY repairable. Again, don't ask me how I know.

Good on you, sir, for using them the way they're supposed to be used. If it breaks, it gets fixed. Simple. I'll share my own experiences of pain and suffering, but call me after you've had an extra hole punched in THREE blocks, and I'll bring the scotch.

CW

 

Looks horrible. At least it can be saved. Can i buy one of the old pistons?

 

Aye!!!

 

UGH. Best of look getting her back together!

 

Oh wow, those are some painful photos to see Bill.

 

Unless Ferrari states that the valves are NOT inertially welded multi piece construction, I will stand on my opinion of valve separation with subsequent hammering of the seats-seats look ruptured, not dropped, too much residual seat material still in original installed locales...
IMHO, and, after 37 years of Ferrari comp engine building experiences(I start ANOTHER P motor after Xmas, as reference point), I have seen soo many valve failures it is silly. Had this been BRASS seats, well, then we have something else altogether. The interference fit on the seats is such that it makes no sense...again, just opinion based on decades of remanufacture of catastrophic failures in blocks, heads, timing chests, pans, etc-alloy and Magnesium.
You say oil hydrolock...a stem poked a hole in a galley to fill the chamber?
I can't comment there without having seen D&I photos...
Also, remeber, Ferrari does NOT make seats, valves, springs, keepers or retainers. Or, cams, rosds, pistons, clips, pins, bearings or rin b ushes.
ALL mag is done at the sole foundry for Mag-NOT in Modena...PANKL "probly" makes the rods for this car???
You are, however, far better off doing the work in house...IMHO..

 

Ditto on doing this in house.

 

I'm aware of one Enzo engine in the UK that was rebuilt recently - my understanding is they had to get valves and/or guides made up as the factory could not supply

 

I know...don't ask. And, definitely don't ask the cost of blown race motors.

CW

 

that s incredible Bill, your garage was finished and now the car is out...
Hope the problem find a early solution.

 

strange... a manufacturer has to make parts or allow parts availability for 10 years after production.

 

Is there an exemption based on limited model production?

 

No.

Under US law PF is required to for Ferrari P 4/5 by Pininfarina which is as limited as you can get.