Strange there's no "Massa needs to go" thread ***SPOILERS***

Whats with all the Massa hatred?

 

He plays a great second fiddle well most of the time.

 

Well, another pointless thread.....
I guess it is hip at F-chat lately.......like....... for the last.......3 years or so.

 

Alonso failed to do so a few times this season as well...on 2 occasions at least Massa did get through all the way to Q1.

I hear what you're saying though. I've defended him for a long time now, not because I think he's the best around but because he's a nice guy...unfortunately thats not enough in F1. **** sucking won't get you anywhere in life, unless your name is Jenna Jameson.

At the start he did get forced onto the grass which led to the crash (haven't seen a replay though), but Ferrari really do need a better #2 now.

Massa, I like you, but you do have to deliver...

 

And Jenna I'm still waiting on your call?

 

Time for Dave Viz' quote:

 

His motivation took a huge hit in Germany Id say. Hard to feel appreciated when they 'hand' the win to your team mate incapable of passing you at the time.

That being said he should leave. No thread needed. He needs to go for his own good. Ferrari are not a real family for him anymore. He doesnt exist in the team with Fernando around. He should get out and enjoy life. He earned it. If he doesnt want to be Rubens as he stated, he should walk. Life is too short.

 

He don't even know how to play the fiddle.

Sack the idiot already.

 

I was happy with him in the team, particularly since he followed team orders in Germany.

But the qualifying at Suzuka made me really question his motivation to support his team mate.

Whether that was intentional or not is almost irrelevant. The fact is that he didn't support Alonso one bit in Japan by taking away positions/points from Alonso's competitors. In that way he hasn't lived up to the team's expectations and it is time to think about alternatives.

Somehow I have the feeling the team won't sack him until Interlagos is in the books: They know he owns that place and he will be the ace in Alonso's sleeve. Probably after Interlagos the Scuderia will call a press conference.

 

+1

Beyond that, I can't believe the hatred. Looking at quali so far this season, he's been the best #2 driver of any of 'em:

- They've both failed to get out of Q1 twice.
- They've both failed to get out of Q2 once.
- Fred has 12 top 5 starts.
- Phil has 7 top 5 starts.

Hardly a performance worthy of getting fired IMO. [Whether he should choose to move on is a different debate - But where's he gonna go?]

Cheers,
Ian

 

Sacking him in that way would be a very nasty move from the Scuderia. That would probably leave him without a seat for next year. I hope they won´t do that.

I suppose that he will stay at least one year more till he gets tired of moaning about being number two and will make a deal with a mid-field team for 2012.

I still think that Massa can help. He´s doing a decent second half of the season: bad luck in Singapore and a bad day at Suzuka, but two 4th places, one podium and "almost" a win.

 

Somehow I have the feeling that past November (testing) a seat will become available at Mercedes.

 

Rosbergs leaving???

 

A really nasty response to my speculation would have been:

Why wait till November? Heidfeld gave up the testing seat already...

 

I'm to nice of a guy to get nasty over something I could care less about, I just have fun with F1.