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  1. HMB-Dino

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    #1 HMB-Dino, Oct 10, 2010
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    My 1971 246GT came to me w/o a cigarette lighter (that spot had been used for a fire suppression activation button) and I'm trying to restore little things like this on my own. I also discovered that there's an ashtray light, but it doesn't work. The fire suppression system and pushbutton had been taken out and a simple black plug put in the cigarette lighter hole.

    So I pulled off the center console interior piece to see what was hiding there to determine if the wires for a cigarette lighter and the ashtray light were still in place. What I found were several wires that had numbered tags on them; 0,1,2,3 (see attachment), all of which just had their ends taped over. A couple of them come from the forward portion of the console tunnel and the other two from the rear section (have no idea where their ends terminate).

    I also noticed that the ashtray light only has the ground wire intact (see other attachment) and that there's a numbered strip (1) on the bottom of the ashtray.

    Any idea what these wires are for and which ones go to what (eg, green wire goes to _____, yellow striped wire goes to _____, _____ wire goes to the ashtray light, etc)?

    Lastly, where can I locate the entire cigarette lighter assembly? I haven't been able to locate one at the usual suspects online.
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  2. jselevan

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    #2 jselevan, Oct 11, 2010
    Yellow-black goes to a spade connector on the cigar lighter. Green is a stripped wire that is inserted into the light fixture for the ash tray, and is held via a brass clamp screw in the bass of the bulb fixture. The black spade wire is ground, and the black ring connector I believe is also ground. Does your hand brake light work? One of the black wires may be coming from the hand brake switch.

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    #3 HMB-Dino, Oct 11, 2010
    Handbrake light...per Matthias thread, Euro cars don't have this
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?p=139489456&highlight=%22handbrake+light%22#post139489456

    Black spade and black ring connector ground wires...where do they attach (what are they supposed to be grounding)?
     
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    #4 dino clay, Oct 12, 2010
    My #1582, euro gt has a reverse light switch and a reverse light. No cigar lighter or ash tray though. But center console does not look original either.

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    #5 dm_n_stuff, Oct 12, 2010
    part number is 0200498

    If you don't care if it works or not, I think the guys at Algar Ferrari have a busted one in their parts dept. Visually correct, just has a burnt out element. At least the did a couple years ago.

    Dennis McCann, who would be the next most logical suspect, does not list the part on his site.

    I wonder if there's an Alfa cross reference for it...

    Looks like Matt at reoriginals might have one...

    http://reoriginals.com/cigarettelighternosdrop-incigarettetypebarrel-n0045x.aspx

    looks about right, if my memory serves me correctly.

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    #6 HMB-Dino, Oct 12, 2010
    McCann does list one (under `cigarette lighter', not `cigar lighter'), for $125 smackers.

    50065606 CIGARETTE LIGHTER, DINO/308/330/365/365GT4BB/512BB/512BBi (OLD # 20040903)(BRICO PRAM)(NLA) $125.00
     
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    #7 dm_n_stuff, Oct 13, 2010
    I don't think that's the same part, # doesn't match up.

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    #8 HMB-Dino, Oct 13, 2010
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    I looked for a Fiat part that could be the same given the hybrid nature of the Dino....this item looks like the pictures I've seen of the Dino cigar lighter...
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    #10 swift53, Oct 13, 2010
    Exactly the same as a slew of Alfa Romeo.
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