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My 2001 360 Spider, not happy with trade-in

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  1. RapidEM

    RapidEM Karting

    Dec 18, 2008
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    My 2001 360 spider is worth $55,000 on trade at a local dealership.
    Red with tan, lower mileage under 18,000, F1.
    It's not very appealing to jump into a 430 anymore. Not too pleasant an experience. Pretty nice ones are listed locally for around $100,000.
    $75,000 I might understand, but $55,000? The car is nice without paintwork, 2 owners with me being number 2. No accidents
     
  2. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    no one is getting 100K for a car like that...askin prices dont mean muhc...try and sell it for 80K and move to the 430...u wont regret it...

    how much did u pay for the car and when did u buy it?
     
  3. Senna1994

    Senna1994 F1 World Champ

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    What he said^^^ Sell it your self.
     
  4. Need4Spd

    Need4Spd F1 Veteran

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    The dealer has to take the risk of not being able to sell it any time soon in a market where the prices continue to decline. They also have to pay interest on financing their inventory, pay the rent, and a sales commission, and that's just the basics. That said, everything is negotiable, especially if you buy your F430 from the same dealer.
     
  5. Dohangs

    Dohangs F1 Rookie
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    That's a ridiculous number. Don't trade it in. You can get much more if sell it yourself. Even if you get a low ball offer of $65,000 to $75,000 its better than trade in value. Depending on the service history maybe a bit more.
     
  6. 4EverRosso

    4EverRosso Rookie

    Feb 15, 2010
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    Trading-in can be nice. It's fast, easy and can be financially helpful if done in a state that gives you a sales tax deduction for the trade-in value. CA is not one of those states. Plus CA cars are more desireable in many respects. If you have the time and patience, definitely sell it on your own.
     
  7. blackbolt22

    blackbolt22 F1 Veteran
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    Geez. Only 55 on a trade. I do understand their position but I would sell myself as suggested. Good luck.
     
  8. Chupee

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    i hope you urinated on the floor as you walked out .. Complete bulsh*** went thru that also with an 02 spider 8000 miles .. They all say Im only gonna mark it up 5 grand .. THe biggest guys in La told me that .. Only thing missin from that transaction is a GUN and SKI MASK
     
  9. F430addict

    F430addict F1 Rookie

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    Same thing happened to me when I tried to dispose of my M6. Dealer offered me 55k below what I eventually sold it myself for...suckers
     
  10. reuland

    reuland Karting

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    Third party transfer or trade in at dealership will save you tax money and they will inflate the value of your car on this transaction!!! So if it's a 430 you fancy, do the transaction at your Ferrari dealership and everyone is happy!!!!!!
     
  11. blackbolt22

    blackbolt22 F1 Veteran
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    Yes, but tax savings won't offset the big difference in $ between trade-n vs. private sale.

    I agree that if we're only talking 5K or so difference , it would be easier to just trade in and move on.
     
  12. timmp

    timmp Rookie

    Jan 19, 2008
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    trade in doesn't lower tax hit in the sunshine state....

    Sell it yourself and save!


    tim
     
  13. big_luke

    big_luke Karting

    Aug 28, 2010
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    I just picked up a 99 Giallo Modena

    8.8k miles/1 owner/very clean/F1


    picked it up for $67k at a local exotic dealer


    hate to say, but it's a buyers market for these things.
     
  14. Animate

    Animate Formula Junior

    May 21, 2004
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    So in California, regardless of the value of your trade, you pay tax on the full value of the car you're buying?

    If so, how is that value established? There must be a motivation to reduce the asking price and give more on trade. For those in Cali I'm stating the obvious I'm sure ;-)
     
  15. Highlow

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    Brand new M6s are going for 80k, what did the dealer offer you? $1?
     
  16. sbenus

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    can you post some pics of the car?

    cheers!
     
  17. ddemuro

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    #17 ddemuro, Oct 31, 2010
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    Uh. Perhaps you don't understand how trading in a car works. Let me enlighten you.

    If you trade in a car, the dealer purchases it from you and sells it themselves at a profit. Dealers don't pay retail because they need to make money, and they don't make money by forking out huge offers on cars with rapidly declining values. There is nothing unfair about this. The dealer is not forcing him to take their offer - they are simply making him one. Welcome to business.

    EDIT: by the way, I also think the dealer's offer is ridiculously low. But it's not "complete bulsh***" - dealers can offer whatever they want, take it or leave it. I second all suggestions to sell it yourself.
     
  18. Dohangs

    Dohangs F1 Rookie
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    We should have an auction section on here where you start the bidding at the dealers trade in offer. I'm sure you would get much more than $55k. Try posting it in the for sale section.
     
  19. tbakowsky

    tbakowsky Two Time F1 World Champ
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    They simply didn't want the car. So they low balled you, rather then telling you the truth about the current market.
     
  20. TG

    TG F1 Veteran

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    Like the man with his Diablo people started offering their $ when he posted a thread like this.
     
  21. Chupee

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    im smiling as i read your post . First of all I am well versed in how dealers think. I traded 3 cars this year so far . Dealers position is very simple they play both ends against the middle . THey want to buy below wholesale buy playing look how soft the market is and steal your car and then get above retail on what youre buying. No confusion there. I was offered 70's for a super clean 02 360 spider with 8000 and told "Listen we are only gonna make 5 grand when we sell it " but i see what they are sellin THESE cars for and its about 20 grand spread in the 90's. but thanks for the education. Used cars salesman will always be used car salespeople .. Hondas or Ferraris Sorry
     
  22. Buxton

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    They made 20,000 of the 360s, nothing rare about high volumes. They're declining in value by that pressure.
     
  23. ferrari 512 tr

    ferrari 512 tr F1 Rookie

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    unfortunately the truth
     
  24. campbell360

    campbell360 Formula Junior
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    I'd write a check now for $55k. Now way no how that's the right money. And I'm a Ford dealer. I wouldn't sell my 99 Modena with 8000 miles for that.
     
  25. HernanTroya9

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    Welcome to free market capitalism
     

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