If the last lap was Vettel Webber Hami Alonso...

IMO I think ... Redbull will do the switch.

But really they want it more than ever to be done naturally, thats Webber leading, if ever the spotlight was on, it will be on them.

Maybe they have really left it up to Vettel, strange as it is, Webber needs Vettel to help him win FA can still win if he comes 2nd .

If Alonso is third he can be beaten by Webber, but only if the Australian wins the race – or is allowed to win the race. If Webber is second behind Vettel and Alonso is third then Fernando wins the title. If Alonso is fourth he is also champion in those circumstances, but a fifth place finish with Vettel and Webber one-two would mean a three-way tie on points with Vettel and Webber. In that situation then Webber would be out of the picture, as he would have won only four races. Vettel and Alonso would each have five wins, two seconds, three thirds and Vettel would win it because he has three fourth places to Alonso’s two.

 

According to Red Bull themselves they will hand the championship to Alonso. They have stated they will absolutely not use team orders. So in your situation, Alonso is WDC

 

That is the million dollar question. Only SV will know.
I hope he doesn't and I don't think Webber would want him to either.

 

I have a really, REALLY hard time thinking Red Bull will willingly allow both of it's drivers to lose the WDC.

If they do, props to them I guess. They'll look like fools in the process though.

 

Well, not exactly... they said they would not *order* Vettel to move over, but he would be free to make the choice himself.

I think Vettel would definitely move over. And I think if the situations were reversed, Mark would move over.

 

After everything that has happened I don't think that would be the case. If it was Button for Hami yes. However I don't think SV would for MW and definitely not FM for FA.

 

If its Vettel Webber Alonso in the race then Vettel won't move over till the last lap because if Alonso were to DNF (blown engine etc) then he (Vettel) would win the WDC.

But if Alonso is running third I think he will move over (though RB probably won't tell him to)

He will say its justice for what happened in Germany and look what a good guy I am - and he will leave Webber looking like a Turkey who couldn't win on his own.

Rule #1 in F1 is beat your team-mate. Winning the WDC like that would do Webber's head in I think - he will hate it (and Vettel knows it).

Best result is for Ferrari to raise their game and take it from the front.

 

No, he needs to be 2nd, then it doesn;t matter what anyone else does. If he's third and Webber wins then Webber takes it.

 

No, he needs to be 2nd, then it doesn't matter what anyone else does. If he's third and Webber wins then Webber takes it.

 

Without a doubt.

 

Agree with your first point but not your second...

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/article-23757410-jenson-button-gets-boost-in-brazil-as-mark-webber-says-he-wont-help-team-mate-sebastian-vettel.do

 

+1 It doesn't taint Webber's WDC.

IMO a driver should move over for his teammate once he's been eliminated from the championship. In Vettel's case, that means Alonso in 3rd or 4th. He should still wait until the last lap in case of a Ferrari DNF though.

By the way, checked the F1 Tipping results yet? Just when I thought it was between me and you...

 

How would Red Bull be able to avoid team orders allegations if it was done on the last lap?

 

As long as they don't radio Vettel to do it and he moves over on his own then there's no problem with the FIA. Only the Brazilian prosecuter cares at that point.

 

I think your right John, a last min shuffle, maybe 3/4 in to race seeing how it pans out.

Other than that I'm whatever the case sure will be a final showdown to witness.

 

Qualifying as always will maintain a huge part of it. At least this week FOM can't state there is a "threat of rain" like they have done for the final part of the season

 

I'm going with your scenario of 1st 2nd and 5th for a tie on points!

 

A nice fitting end...

Or everyone going on a 3 way tits up crash fest and Ham winning it.. imagine the uproar on here...

 

Would cause a few heart attacks that!

 

Ferrari will probably install a smoke machine on Alonso's car. Wait until the last lap when Vettel is about to pull over and let Webber through, activate it so that Alonso looks finished, have Vettel finish, then keep going and take it from him.

 

Hmmmm...

Call Luca!