Who wants which newbies to score a point or two?

Hey,

Another quick poll.

I dunno the details, but apparently if you want any Bernie-Dollars you had better score at least a single point.... If you don't I believe you get zero.

Now, while there's been some *serious* vitriol, hatred and nastiness towards the noobs over the year (some possibly justified) at least they made it to the grid and all the way thru' the season - IIRC, some here said they wouldn't. Personally, I'd like to see 'em all back next year. Sure, they get in the way but I think it's been a pretty interesting battle back there and would love to see 'em improve.

To that end, I reckon a few $M from Bernie is gonna help them a lot more than the big guys - Personally, I'd like to see all 3 of 'em score - What say you?

Cheers,
Ian
Multiple choices are allowed....

 

+1

Good point - I guess I'd leave HRT out, but even that seems harsh - I'd actually like to see their CFD-only approach pay back for 'em - Say, the midfield - It's gotta take balls (and/or a lack of $!) to stand up and say "we're doing it in the 'puter".

While 3-4 seconds is an eternity in F1 terms, they haven't exactly disgraced themselves versus the other noob's [Most of the time at least....]

Cheers,
Ian

 

And the others should go? OK.

However, your comment got me thinking (!) - Is that really true? They *should* be the best given their jockeys.... Anyway, I came up with the "Ian formula for who sucks least":

- Everyone scores a number of points = to their final classification [If you DNS, you got 24 points.]
- We're therefore looking for the lowest total......

After 8 races:
1 - Lotus 304
2 - Virgin 306
3 - HRT 309

After 13 races:
1 - Lotus 487
2 - Virgin 492
3 - HRT 506

Now:
1 - Lotus 625
2 - Virgin 639
3 - HRT 649

So, it seems "our" collective "gut feeling" is about right. But, it's damn close!

I'd really like to see 'em all score points this weekend.

Cheers,
Ian

 

The poll does allow multiple selections......

 

I hear you, and somewhat agree. But do you want them back next year? Sounds like you wouldn't miss them and would like 'em gone?

Indeed.... I can argue that one both ways. However, they are "rookies" and will hopefully improve next year. The days of Wolf and the like winning their debut GP are long gone - F1 is *hard*, and you've got to serve your time at the back. To that end, I personally would like to see 'em get some Bernie-$.....

Cheers,
Ian
PS - Is, PM me the delivery address for your wine!.....

 

No, no and thrice no! How the hell do you deserve even a single point for coming last!?

Maybe Sir Dickie, Fernandez & whoever's running HRT (?) are the new Ken Tyrell - It's up to them to haul themselves up the results and score points.

How far back should points be awarded? As noted, I can argue for "tradition" (only the top 6) or this new fangled top 10 system. But, certainly no lower than that IMO.

Cheers,
Ian

 

Are you *sure* I said that?

OK, let's let it ride next year - I'm not nearly as confident as I was early this year, but that didn't work out too well...... [As noted before, you certainly recognized the young lads talent ahead of me - He is a *lot* quicker than I expected.]

+1 [Although, I was At Surtees in those days and not making the grid *sucked*!....]

Incidentally, has anyone checked if any of the noob's would have been excluded this season under the 107% rule?

Cheers,
Ian

 

Unfortunately not - I was actually with them for (most of) the 78 season - Rupert Keegan (a James wannabe) and Vittorio Brambilla were the jockeys. [VB was a nice guy, and not too bad. Plus, I'm pretty sure he bought the "Beta Utensili" money to the table....]

No money, no fresh engines, and almost no food!

We used to watch Colin & Mario swapping engines every session it seemed - We'd have loved to have the opportunity!

Cheers,
Ian