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My 348 does not like to shower!

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  1. Full

    Full Karting

    Feb 21, 2010
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    Alessandro
    Greetings guys
    it's true
    I sent the engine wash
    and it was cold, I just could lay his hands on discharge
    after that, the rpm went crazy,1500/1700/2000 !!!
    already has more than a week!
    I see no apparent defect
    Anyone idea what has happened?
    Thankful!
     
  2. BRADAN

    BRADAN Two Time F1 World Champ
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    We cover every engine bay with a plastic bag when washing. It's good practice especially on older cars.
     
  3. Full

    Full Karting

    Feb 21, 2010
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    Everything was very dirty!
    For it had broken the seals of the joints of the wheels!
    grease Was flying everywhere!
     
  4. notbostrom

    notbostrom Formula Junior

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    what do you do when your driving down the road and it starts raining?
     
  5. Full

    Full Karting

    Feb 21, 2010
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    Let's not exaggerate!

    Nor is it made of sugar! Kkkkk ...
     
  6. ferrari 512 tr

    ferrari 512 tr F1 Rookie

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    good point

    find cover real fast
     
  7. Full

    Full Karting

    Feb 21, 2010
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    Do you have to understand that in fact
    the term to say that she does not like bath
    this is only figuratively
    the only problem really came after that fact!
     
  8. Full

    Full Karting

    Feb 21, 2010
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    After all, nobody really has any idea what might have happened?
    that part could have broken?
     
  9. FandLcars

    FandLcars F1 Rookie

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    I'd first check all engine compartment electrical connections to make sure they are dry.
     
  10. Full

    Full Karting

    Feb 21, 2010
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    As I said, it's been over a week!
    I would have had time to dry!
    I still think you broke something!
     
  11. Andretti Molletti

    Andretti Molletti Formula Junior

    Sep 19, 2010
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    #11 Andretti Molletti, Nov 19, 2010
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2010
    Start the engine and disconnect both connectors of the idle valves. Then connect them. is there any difference? Mormaly the idle valves let the engine idle, but when they stay open (bad connector because of damp or so) then the idle rpm goes way up as you discribe.
    So first check both that connectors

    good luck!

    by the way, it looks like this:
    [​IMG]
     
  12. notbostrom

    notbostrom Formula Junior

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    go drive it for a while ( 30 min or longer) and get it good and hot
     
  13. FandLcars

    FandLcars F1 Rookie

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    I took my car through a power car spray wash, and a couple of the ECU or Sensor connectors were full of water! I live in Arizona where it's extremely dry, and I don't believe mine would have thoroughly dried out in a week. If you live in a more wet climate, I still think you could have water in connectors. It's easy to disconnect them and check. Of course, it's up to you! :)
     
  14. Saint Bastage

    Saint Bastage F1 Rookie

    Jun 1, 2007
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    To the guys who would know better than I...(pretty much all of you)

    Is this the kind of symptom you might expect from a cam sensor problem?
     
  15. Full

    Full Karting

    Feb 21, 2010
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    Hello Friend!
    What would this cam sensor?
     
  16. Kaivball

    Kaivball Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Actually, the sensor senses the cam.

    More specifically, the position of said cam.

    Kai
     
  17. UConn Husky

    UConn Husky F1 Rookie

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    I haven't actually washed my car in over a year, only dusting and spray on detailing. Of course if I'm caught in the rain there's nothing I can do, but a hot engine and a moving car should resist some amount of water getting into sensors.

    I doubt if anything broke, since it happened after the wash I would still suspect water seeped into a connection and is still there.
     
  18. Miltonian

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    Was the engine sprayed underneath? If so, I'd guess that the crankshaft sensors (or their connectors) is the problem.

    It's possible that one or more of your spark plug holes are full of water. Have you pulled the wires off the plugs to check down by the extensions? If water gets in there, it won't dry up for a LONG time unless you blow them out with compressed air.
     
  19. Full

    Full Karting

    Feb 21, 2010
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    Hi Jeff!
    Well, anyway, she will spend a few days out of use!
    My engine is full of small oil leaks!
    Although only 43,000 Klm wheelsets
    She was left to chance for a few years by the former owner!
    and to dismantle it, if you really infiltrated water, will allow time to dry!
    this to me 2 years
    poor live in one of the most underserved regions of Brazil to specialized workshops do not help!
    you has been of immense value!
    a good workshop for assistance only in about 2500 Klm!
    Just being very passionate about Ferrari!, because having one where you live is a huge headache!
    Well, I'm making a list of equipment needed to solve the leaks
    I think we'll find the best prices on RICANBIAMERICA agree?
     
  20. Ingenere

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    This would appear like an obvious electrical issue, given the circumstances involved. It's not just the water, but the corrosion that goes along with the water. Over the 20 years I had my 348 I remember this happening a couple of times. I dried and cleaned all the connections, and used dielectric grease to cover the connections, and I bet you will be good to go.
     
  21. Full

    Full Karting

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    That's what I say Dino!
    until I find out where ... patience!...
    on the grease, do not know where I could purchase?
     
  22. Andretti Molletti

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    #22 Andretti Molletti, Nov 22, 2010
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2010
    Was this answer not what you wanted to hear?
    If the idlespeed is not correct it seems logically to start withe the idle-actuators, doesn't it?
    There is no camsensor and if so it wouldnt affect idle. Water in a spark plug hole wouldnt cause the engine to idle 2000rpm. And bad connectors, sure! Its possible but there are hunderds and we dont like guessing (thats why Las Vegas is in the USA and not in Holland ;) )
     
  23. Miltonian

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    Yes, there is a cam sensor. And I wasn't suggesting that water in the spark plug hole would cause his high idle, I was suggesting that water in the spark plug hole could cause a misfire (particularly after spraying the engine with water), and the misfire could cause the Motronic ECU to send a false signal to the idle stabilizer to attempt to compensate for it.
     
  24. HolyRoller

    HolyRoller Formula Junior

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    Yeah, and what do you do when you forget to take the plastic bag off before the next drive and it melts all over the engine?
     

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