no more spoiler warnings in F1 with technical fix?

No spoilers in titles!

As most folk seem to understand, it really isn't hard to do.

And as Dave mentioned, what about the daily digest? [I don't subscribe, but there are some that do.]

The rule has been in place "forever", the majority get it and there really shouldn't be any debate. As we've said before, "don't like it? Go elsewhere."

Why should the rules be changed because, apparently, some people lack the linguistic talent to craft a title without it being a spoiler?

My 02c,
Cheers,
ian

 

I agree 100% with Ian.


Rob

 

I understand completely.

This would also remove the F1 section from the home page with the result that any casual visitors wouldn't even see that we have one of the *best* F1 forums around. They'd go elsewhere.....

As for "more meaningful titles", I absolutely (respectfully ) disagree - Given a few seconds *thought* it really isn't hard - If you can't even do that, I don't think I want to read your post!.....

Or, we can just dumb it down so the morons take over with the almost inevitable result that the signal to noise ratio decreases.

How about the other racing sections? Are we gonna hide them too?

My 02c,
Cheers,
Ian
PS - RobZ - Thanks for the support!

 

No spoilers. It's really not a difficult concept. I don't get why anyone NEEDS to post a spoiler in the title.

Mark

 

I guess its not that hard to not put results in the Thread titles.
Its just that after a certain amount of time it should be understandable that results and names can/should be mentioned in topic titles.
Personally if I have not seen the race, the way it is now, I avoid Fchat entirely until I do.
The races do matter to me to this point of avoidance.
I'm willing to do whatever is needed to keep other section traffic up at Fchat but without race revealing results.
IMO its a minor issue but thanks for addressing it.

 

Thankyou! I know you started the thread this time round, and thanks for keeping an open mind and it seems, changing your opinion.

Indeed - I think the mods said it's generally about a week. Which is fine with me although I think it would be a fine habit to simply not do it - What's so hard?....

I've done the same on occasion. But, I come here for a lot more than the F1 section ("The Great missile silo" thread is a good example!) and have the main page set as my home. Sure, I could change that, but why should I have to?

Cheers,
Ian

 

Always thought that my self.

 

LOL! I agree with that to. This is un canny

 

OK - so now we're going to have the F1 section as a "teaser". We have to change the entire site because some folk have some sort of need to post spoiler titles?

But, we don't get the chance to watch all the races live here in the States. We have no choice but to cut ourselves off from the TV, radio etc "just in case". And that's fine, but I want to visit other areas of the site without being concerned that someone, I suspect *deliberately* in some cases, post spoilers "just because they can".

Just another example of a lack of common courtesy as someone said a while back.

I honestly don't see what's so difficult about not doing it? You can still be the first to post on any subject you choose if that's so important to you - Just obey the rules as written and accepted by most.

Cheers,
Ian

 

Then you don't understand the problem, even though it's just been described here succinctly. The last thread title shows up on the main page. It's not enough not to visit the F1 section, you have to not visit Fchat at all. (Which is what I now do.)

 

OK, I've been thinking a little more on this and guess I can live with Robs proposal. I think it's a shame and a disappointment that we have to cater to people who don't a **** about others, but I guess that's society today. [Although I urge anyone with an ounce of courtesy in their body to vote "no spoilers" as that's worked pretty well for many years.]

Incidentally, to those who say "don't visit the F1 forum", here's a hypothetical situation:

- You've been away, working, vacation, whatever and return on Tuesday thoroughly looking forward to watching practice, quali, the race and the outcome of the championship while FF'ing thru the ads.
- You fire up your browser, and without visiting the F1 forum there's a big ol' title on the home page claiming "JB wins WDC!"
- I didn't do anything wrong, I didn't visit the forum, but now I believe (mistakenly) that JB won it all. Nice, thanks a lot...... While the thread was "funny, ha ha" *if* you're in the know it would be have been heartbreaking otherwise.

OK, "hiding" the thread titles will sort of work, but it seems to me we're dumbing everything down to the lowest common denominator in order to please folks who don't give a damn about others, the rules or common courtesy.

Oh well, I guess the system here needs changing to accommodate these people. A shame, but to be expected I guess.

Cheers,
Ian

 

Congratulations, you understand perfectly.

The answer to your rhetorical question is yes.

The alternative, not a shabby one IMHO, is to ban people who post spoiler titles until AFTER the NEXT race. That'll learn 'em. It'd be super cool if they were allowed access to read a single thread -- the sticky about not posting spoiler titles.

 

Let's go even further with this. You come back on Tuesday and watch qualifying. You then would like to go onto the Ferrarichat F1 forum so you can read peoples thoughts on qualy, just like you would normally do after qualy. But you can't go on because the race results have already been plastered all over seven different titles cause everybody wants to be the first one to write something. There just isn't any benefit to anyone.
And as far as a timelimit, what is the point of saying who won 2 weeks later? It doesn't make any sense. Eventually it will be old news and referring to Jenson Button as a former world champion seems reasonable enough, and the mods will probably not have any issue with it.

 

Thankyou! The best justification I've read so far!

Cheers,
Ian

 

None whatsoever! The "offending" thread was initially posted as "JB wins WDC", and I believe the OP got a few days off (?) The mods changed it to "JB wins 2009 WDC!" and everyone is happy!... "How hard can it be?"....

Cheers,
Ian

 

Agreed - there's nothing wrong with how the current system here works. I've been on several other forums with a similar policy about thread titles with far less grief over it.

This small vocal minority who just can't stand for it here need to sit back down.

>8^)
ER

 

I don't see why we should bow down to the few who don't understand the rule.

Keep it as it is.

 

The rule is simple and effective (except for the vocal minority that hate it).

+1 vote for keeping it as is.

 

I think the problem is newbies really, I nearly fell foul of the rule at first, I think you saved me..

Well I was new to forums to be honest, however it does seem harsh to ban folk, I can understand the anger when you get a race result spoilt though, but there again there is a danger of chasing folk off.

You see over here, you really have to news black out to avoid race results, it really is hard, radio off the lot, not answering phone or making sure folk that you know,: get it in first to keep it shut. I would not even turn the PC on.

The idea is fine by me to tweak it with tech, but I voted no preference.

I can understand elsewhere time zones ect are different, so anything that helps can't be a bad thing.

 

Love zat avatar seen dem lot in Vegas brilliant...

 

Whether or not it shows up on the main page, I will continue to refrain from posting any results in thread titles out of respect for my fellow enthusiasts. I would encourage all here to do the same.

 

It ain't broke.
Don't fix it.
I subscribe to the F1 thread and get a daily recap of the previous day's posts. Its very convenient and I see no compelling reason to insert spoilers there.