If free, which of the 4 supercars would you pick?

This doesn't surprise me in the slighest as the Enzo traps up to 10 mph higher in the 1/4 mile, which tells you how fast a car is. ET tells you how much off the line traction it has. No doubt a retrofit launch control system for the Enzo (wouldn't be cheap!) would have it in the 10s in the 1/4 mile.

 

Yes, the Enzo is noticeably faster over 60 mph when tire and traction control technologies become less important for straight line acceleration.

I haven't seen 0-300 km/h (0-186 mph) times for the Scuderia. The Enzo takes about 26 seconds.

 

I will put in my 2cents as well.
In my mind I feel there are 2 issues that probably need to be accepted.

One, I feel there is absolutely no doubt that had the F40 been made in the 300-350 car limit that the others have been produced, then I am sure a lot of people would agree that the F40 would currently be the most valuable car of the lot. But its not and therefore it is the ....cheapest if you like.

Second, I think the f50 is criminally undervalued, mainly because I think the car somewhat divides through its looks at present(which I honestly feel will mellow with time and will also grow prettier with time), and secondly because at the time of launch it never really hit the excitement button as the others did i.e. F40. Probably in all honesty, this because it was overshadowed by Mclaren F1 which lauched at similar time-which got the lions share of the press. Irrespective however it is a great car.

I think however it will undeniably overshoot the 288 in terms of price and will match the Enzo in the years to come, even though here in Europe the 288 currently has a slight edge(depending on the specific cars of course). A number of reasons for this I feel exist.

Firstly I think we have to abandon the rarity value advantage of the 288. I don't think that a difference of 77 cars in build between the two is a significant enough difference to rate the 288 significantly more rare than the F50. Both are relatively rare. So take that perceived advantage out of the equation(although anecdotal,I personally have heard of significantly more F50's totalled than 288's in the last few years, which should move in favor of F50).

I think however 2 main reasons for the F50 increasing in value over the 288 are:
A. It has a V12- this will always be more desirable than a blown v8 in the long run- just listen to the difference.
B. Buyers of collectors supercars I feel, want to own something that has an instantly recognisable appearance and cannot be mistaken for anything else. In general they do not want to own, if possible, a generic type of car-even if that is a beautiful one. As much as I think the 288 is a beautiful car, I am sorry but for every Fchat member(who knows their cars) there are 100 other car enthusiasts who probably will mistake the 288 for a 308/328 at first glance. This is unacceptable to many supercar collectors. An F50 cannot be mistaken for anything else however. This is worth a lot of money to collectors and should never be underestimated.

So in terms what car will be the most valuable in 20 years I will probably say either the Enzo or the F50, with the F50 nudging it as it will remind collectors in 20 years time what a fabulous thing driving a Ferrari V12 through a manual box felt like-something you surely will not be able to do then. A unique experience my friends, undoubtedly-and this is why collectors will pay greatly for.

But what do I know???

 

1. F50
2. 288

 

Nice write-up! I agree with nearly everything you wrote. It's very hard to find a good F50 today. Imagine how much harder that will be in 20 years!

If I could imagine "passion" in 20 years for these relatively high-numbered cars, I would guess:

1. Many people outside the US will have a strong passion for the 288 because it made such a huge impact on automotive history. But this passion will not be as strong in the US.
2. People worldwide will still have a passion for the F40, but its relatively large numbers will keep the value below the other Ferrari supercars.
3. The Enzo will have a world-wide passion. Its style will still be unusual, and it's named after the founder.
4. The F50 will have a world-wide passion, but less than the Enzo because hardly anyone got to test the F50 when it was introduced. Amazingly, the F50 is being re-discovered today as more people get their hands on it.

So, I'd guess 20-year values to be Enzo > F50 = 288 > F40.

BTW, advances in auto technology in 20 years will likely eliminate paddle shifters and manual shifters, so both may be considered equally special in 20 years!

 

...go ahead and pick one for me...

 

I respectfully disagree that a 288 would be mistaken for a 3X8 series Ferrari.

Also, the "blown" V8 you refer to was Ferrari's racing contender developed to conquer Group B racing, so actual racing provenance is attained; something no other Supercar in this category can boast. In a similar manner the F40 harks back to the F1 turbo era which was quite grand. The names Nikki, Clay, Gilles, Carlos, Jody and Didier still perk my ears up when I hear them because they take me back.

That being said you do make a good argument, very well presented, and articulate.
Thank You

 

Unfortunately the 288 never raced a wheel, and certainly never even got a look in to the Group B racing that it was meant to be raced in- so no provenance I'm afraid. Even if it had raced it would never have stood a chance with the likes of Peugeot, Audi and Lancia there. Ferrari also knew it wouldn't have been competitive at all next to these 4 wheel drive monsters of the time. BTW the Porsche 959 supercar can boast actual racing provenance, albeit not in Group B which it was meant to contend, but it did win 2 Paris-Dakar Rallies in a trot-so your statement above in incorrect.

Call me cynical but I am sure a lot of people in motoring would agree that launching the 288GTO was just a free way of getting some extra press on the back of Group B mania of the time. Of course it worked because it did give Ferrari extra press when it was needed.

 

If racing provenance is one's basis for choice, then the only Supercar worth consideration would have to be the F40.

 

The MCC which is Enzo based has been much more successful than the F40 as a Race Car.

http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-Maserati-MCC-GT.htm

 

I forgot about that! Fantastic car.

Although not really a race-prepped Enzo in the way an F40LM is simply a race-prepped F40, if you know what I mean.

 

Personally I think the reason it was badged as a Maser was so if did poorly it "wasn't" a Ferrari but I take your point.

It will be great to see it race at Le Mans.

 

My answers:

Q1 - Enzo.

Q2 - No idea. ​

The Enzo seems the most 'usable' of those particular supercars, as well as offering the blistering Ferrari performance. The resale value of the car wouldn't matter to me as I wouldn't allow it to be sold within my lifetime - so not a consideration.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

Exactaly

 

this

 

I voted for the Enzo.

 

Good choice

 

1. F40

2. F40

 

this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t67N7rmuaBs

I can't believe the sound, it's peerless IMO.

 

White Enzo, Black Enzo

 

I'd take the Enzo for free... then sell it and buy an F40, CS, 16M & a few other cars.

 

Torn between F40 and 288, leaning toward F40. Must...have...more money

 

1. F40 LM
2. FXX
3. 430 SCUDERIA
5. MURCIELAGO LP670 SV
6. MIURA SV

 

my target?
288
F40 GTE
F50
360 CS
Enzo
430 Scuderia
599 gto
458 cs/scud
...
So I just have to finish few things and place orders!

Without dreams life is not interresting

 

voted for F50 since I already have an F40