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  1. SAB

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    #8176 SAB, Dec 5, 2010
    Does anyone know what the codes after the P400 refer to?
     
  2. joe sackey

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    #8177 joe sackey, Dec 5, 2010
    Production numbering.
     
  3. bb4635

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    #8178 bb4635, Dec 5, 2010
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    Why do you describe #3015 as a "discovered car" ?

    I'ts a well known Miura here in France - featured in the french Magazine Retroviseur some years ago (FYI : Pictures shot by the well-known french photograph/artsist called "DINGO") and stored from years in the workshop of a car restorer in the western Paris area...
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  4. bb4635

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    #8179 bb4635, Dec 5, 2010
    Eastern Paris area - sorry...
     
  5. SAB

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    #8180 SAB, Dec 5, 2010
    The numbering system seems to be totally random, i.e. there does not appear to be any pattern of numbering in relation to engine and chassis numbers, which logically, one might expect. Seems that engines were just assigned to chassis as and when needed and in no particular order!
     
  6. joe sackey

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    #8181 joe sackey, Dec 5, 2010
    You get the idea, but I wouldn't say it was "totally" random, especially considering the progression of variants, but essentially you are correct. Engines were assigned when the car was paid for by the concessionaire, and some cars got paid for out-of-sequence.
     
  7. joe sackey

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    #8182 joe sackey, Dec 5, 2010
    The same question crossed my mind.. I can tell you 3015's chassis ID plate does not have original stamping on it.
     
  8. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #8183 Olivier NAMECHE, Dec 5, 2010
    So none of these examples were produced before N°24...
     
  9. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #8184 Olivier NAMECHE, Dec 5, 2010
    Yes, it is for everybody else... excepted you apparently... why have you never shared your precious & evident information ?

    Too easy to say it is not... now you make the relation with the VIN and the magazine... Kevin gave me also another article link from Sport Auto.

    It is... because untill today for instance nobody was able to tell me about since I'm on this board since 2007, 4 years...even Joe had no clue about it... or ILR never been able to provide more informations than what is written.

    I'm searching at this car for 10 years, inquired everywhere... #3015 is discovered now even if it was featured 10 and 17 years ago... None were able to told about before, even you !!!
     
  10. joe sackey

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    #8185 joe sackey, Dec 5, 2010
    Just to clarify - are you suggesting that the first 24 or so cars used different stamp dies?
     
  11. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #8186 Olivier NAMECHE, Dec 6, 2010
    No... I'm just noticing that none of your examples are prior to the 24th produced, that's all !
     
  12. EMILIO

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    #8187 EMILIO, Dec 6, 2010
    guys, as interested as i am on the VIN plate...can we forget about it for a moment? ;)

    Olivier, did you just bought an early P400? that is fantastic! one of most beautiful cars ever
    :)
    you should post some pics!!!!
     
  13. Jota 5084

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    #8188 Jota 5084, Dec 6, 2010
    +1, congratulations on your purchase Olivier.
     
  14. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #8189 Olivier NAMECHE, Dec 6, 2010
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    Here it is...
    original 16.675 km fully documented with invoices
    clear history since delivery.
    I have also 1st owner claim procedure to factory because of terrific oil consumption : 1 litre/100 km done... the file is complete with factory instructions to SOCARIA Belgian importer to fix this...
    Engine has been rebuilt to my knowledge 3x already and needs to be rebuilt now before I'll take delivery !
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  15. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #8190 Olivier NAMECHE, Dec 6, 2010
    ugly left side mirror will be removed...
     
  16. EMILIO

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    #8191 EMILIO, Dec 6, 2010
    nice, very nice
    it even has the original and rare P400 steering wheel
     
  17. EMILIO

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    #8192 EMILIO, Dec 6, 2010
    good to know
    a vitaloni sebring is correct for the car
     
  18. joe sackey

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    #8193 joe sackey, Dec 6, 2010
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    Very nice & original (not to mention irreplaceable) interior with fantastic Grigio Skai and unique 'basket-weave' seat inserts. Make sure you preserve this! So many Miuras have had perfectly nice interiors ripped out and thrown away only to be replaced with something that doesn't even look like a Miura interior! Here is another P400 with basket-weave seat inserts in Senape Skai..
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  19. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #8194 Olivier NAMECHE, Dec 6, 2010
    Trust me, it will be preserved as close to "original shape" and some mistakes need to be corrected for the best of its originality !!!
     
  20. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #8195 Olivier NAMECHE, Dec 6, 2010
    Is #1021 the oldest survivor recorded P400 ?

    Then, how many survivors located worldwide for the 1st 125x Miura produced ?
     
  21. joe sackey

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    #8196 joe sackey, Dec 6, 2010
    No. 0979, 0961, 1006 & 1024 are all still around, and are older.
     
  22. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #8197 Olivier NAMECHE, Dec 6, 2010
    That's what I'm wondering to know... how many cars-survivors prior/older to #3015 ?

    only 5 Miura ?
     
  23. joe sackey

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    #8198 joe sackey, Dec 6, 2010
    Looks like there are at least 12 Miuras built before 3015 that are still around.
     
  24. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #8199 Olivier NAMECHE, Dec 6, 2010
    Good to know it is the 13th survivor in production chronology !

    What is more interesting to my personnal interest : #3015 is the 1st ever Miura to have been raced officialy in the '60s...
     
  25. joe sackey

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    #8200 joe sackey, Dec 6, 2010
    Well, as I said, "at least" 12 cars prior survive, because that's all I have in my Registro. There are likely more. Remember, your is the 24th car built, and it would not surprise if there were say, 20 cars surviving with 4 destroyed. That sounds like a realistic ratio, but the truth is, we shall never know exactly.. its only an estimate.
     
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