458 out of fuel, go to dealer

Hello everyone,

Yesterday I ran out of fuel in my 458. Computer hides range when <50km and I guess I was optimistic ;-)

First it developed an engine error. It said "performance is limited, restart engine" and "engine control system failure, go to dealer". Two minutes later engine died. I filled it up with 5 liters and it was running again. However, the ECU fail message remained.

Nearest dealer is 200 miles, so ... can I celar the error myself with a universal obd scanner?

Any other procedure to clear the error?

Please advise..

 

Just drive to the dealer...only take an hour or so.

I don't know about the newest Ferrari, but my guess is that it should be a common code that can be cleared with an OBDII reader.

 

anything in the owners manual?

odd that running it out of fuel would cause a hard code to set like this. I would be worried about damage to the fuel pump(s).

Wait for a dealer to open, and call them. Even if they are far away, as a 458 customer I am hopeful they would have a Tech on the phone to help you with some better information.

Anybody know if you can disconnect the battery in a 458 and "reset" the ECU, SAFELY?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odf9W0aQ-aY

This is what the conditions are like currently. Really I drove 200kms for 9 hrs last night in the 458. I am very motivated to do it myself.

Btw, where's the obd port?

 

You likely have missfire codes and codes for fuel pressure control faults as the computor was unable to control the fuel pressure accuately as it began to pick up air. Any air dawn up must go through the injectors on a direct injection which results in missfire errors as well. They will eventually clear after a significant amount of driving or an OBDII clear should do the trick.

 

I'm not sure whether any of the Ferraris like the 458 have in-tank fuel pumps, but if it does, or really on any car that does, you need to be rather careful. I had a bad experience with a 2003 Corvette with an in-tank fuel pump. I ran out of gas, and it caused the pump to burn out. Many in-tank pumps use the fuel to cool the pump. The only way to replace the pump was to drop the tank, a $1200 repair that had to be done at the dealership. Fortunately, it was picked up under warranty (thank you dealership), but otherwise it would have been a very costly mistake. Since then, I never let the car get below an 1/8 tank and preferrably fill up at about a 1/4 tank. Why take chances?

 

Good point about driving it awhile, if able..it runs okay??..maybe a few restarts will have the faults clear??

Congrats on your new machine, in any event.....

 

Don't know about Ferraris, but I ran a Subaru out which triggered lights but they went out on their own after about a week. Some systems are set to clear themselves after a few trouble free cycles.

Dave

 

50 start/start stop cycles is a common number for clearing codes.

 

Problem solved. There was low fuel rail pressure codes and some others I think Ferrari specific. After clearing car runs fine. Thanks for all your answers.

 

Be safe in that weather!!!!!!

 

200 miles per hour for 200 miles is zipping right along --- even in a 458!!!

 

Code will clear after a number of cycles.

 

How did you clear them, use an OBD reader?

Bet you don't run out of fuel again!

 

Yes, USB-OBD2 cable and free software (OBD 2007).

 

Cool...

I'll remember that.

Enjoy.

BTW, I just read that Iphones have apps for OBDII and you can get a cable to link the two.

 

+1, I think it depends on the code...but can take over 40 often times.

 

Ran my 458 out of fuel and it burned up the fuel pump. $2200 fix. =(

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That is a real possibility in a fuel injected car.

 

Never go below a 1/4 tank save yourself the headache.

 

Ouch! Maybe that's why my 360 freaks out with the dash lights at 1/3 remaining? I'm still getting used to dividing a tank into thirds? What are the LEDS, ninths or something?

Just got a CEL for O2 sensors and replaced Exhaust ECUs last month. Daily driver Miata almost fixed after new clutch and misfire issue on supercharger harness. What a year!

 

Ferrari dealer had my car in for service after getting some body work done after a 16 year old backed into the driver door. So after the car left the bodyshop they sent it to Ferrari to have the codes reset. While it was there I was close to being due for my annual service so I told Ferrari to complete oil change and brake fluid. I get the car back and start driving home and start to feel power reduce and fault lights on dash, something about abnormal catylitic converter temperature and reduced engine performance. I go back to ferrari and they tell me the car was brought to them with very low fuel and it had ran out of fuel. they put 5 gallons in it and i possibly have air in the line. I drive home and next day same issue. I go back to ferrari and they then take it for test drive and couldn't diagnose. After 3 days in the shop they determine the fuel pumps are bad. Not sure who they are going to lay the blame on but this surely was something that happened while the car was in their hands not mine. Does anyone have any idea how much work is needed to replace fuel pumps? Do they have to drop engine? Not to mention i better not be receiving any sort of bill for this! Furious 458 Ferrari owner in California

 

458 pumps are accessed through the top. No need to drop the engine (that I'm aware of). It just difficult to get to because the tanks are in front of the engine compartment.

 

DO NOT EVER RUN A DIRECT INJECTED CAR OUT OF FUEL. YOU WILL DESTROY THE HIGH PRESSURE FUEL PUMPS.

No matter the manufacturer.

 

The high-pressure fuel pumps are indeed mounted on the the cylinder heads. They are not difficult to get to at all. Fuel tank location has nothing to do with high-pressure pump location or access. Valve cover removal is not needed. That oval you see in the middle top..is where the pump sits.
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