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  1. raymondQV

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    That's #1121180 which I sold to Torai M. still in Belgium.
     
  2. EMILIO

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    Olivier,
    i was going on "memory"...;)

    i said few because i know yellow is quite coomon on LP 400 (and perfect for the car) but very rare for 400S (..and not my first choice)

    i have not my files here to check
     
  3. EMILIO

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  4. joe sackey

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    You are right. The parking garage of the Carlton Hotel in Cannes in the 1980s was a place you could always find a Countach. Or two...
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  5. paul328

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    Didnt realise that the Carlton had a private car park? Was outside the hotel a few times. Does it still have one? In 1978 my now brother in law and I went to visit my sister who was teaching English there. We drove 25 hours there and back in my alfa romeo 1.2 alfasud from Glasgow. 2500 mile round trip in some awful weather. We have promised ourselves to redo the trip at a more civilised pace and to stay at the Carlton.
    May take the QV and was a bit concerned about leaving it outside and having everyone from La Croisette ( the road outside the hotel) being all over the old car.
    Anyone know the current status of the garage?
    Paul
    xx
     
  6. joe sackey

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    Paul I think that garage was across the street, and was used for the Hotel's VIP guests.
     
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  8. Peter K.

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    Well, it's better than having the rear intakes on it.
     
  9. Olivier NAMECHE

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    you said : "my guess would be between 7-15" and it is 20 !
     
  10. joe sackey

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  11. raymondQV

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    Great pictures from Margaret like always.

    Thanks god it goes back to original, the brown wasn't bad at all but the blue-white makes it more special (beside originality).
     
  12. EMILIO

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    well,
    that is good to know

    such a nice car, Joe

    it is almost a relief for me knowing it is sold, i was thinking about it since i saw the pics ...;)
     
  13. Jalpa_Mike

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    Beautiful Joe!!!!

    Quick question for you..... with those low-body cars like that, do they have trouble with the tires scraping inside of the wheel-well arches? It just looks like there is hardly any clearance at all.

    Mike
     
  14. joe sackey

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    Well, I drove this car for 2 days and significant mileage and I can say there were no 'rubbing' issues at all. Ditto clearance.

    Having said that, I avoided the very big pot-holes!!
     
  15. vaholtorf

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    The front wheels are set further deeper into the wheel wells than in other Countachs, and this helps prevent the rubbing problem. I know some people have put spacers in there to make them look more modern, but I like the deep inset look. Imo that is why they don't rub when all original.
     
  16. ApexOversteer

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    On the subject of 1038's interior...

    Joe, is 1038 going back to original Bianco/Blue interior... or to a 3rd new interior, straight Bianco?
     
  17. joe sackey

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    Excellent point.
     
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  19. joe sackey

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    Before anything is done, we will try and fully establish what is correct.

    So far, I have contacted the upholsterer who removed the blue-and-white interior in the current restoration and installed the tan interior. He has a lot of experience with classic Lamborghini interiors. He is absolutely adamant that whilst the blue dash & carpets were original, the the blue-and-white leather parts he removed were not factory original. We surmised that when the car received its two-tone paint application by Carlini, the seat bolsters and door panels were done in blue to give the interior a two-tone application also.

    This took me back to the Factory production register and here is what it precisely says:
    "Bleu Tahiti/Bianco". It does not mention anything about Bianco and Blue interior, whereas if you look at some other Countachs on the production register there is a mention for example of "Bianco Rosso" in the case of a two-tone application. The records are all we have to go on.

    I contacted the man (J.D. Felter) who collected it at the Sant Agata factory for HRH the Prince Turki Al Saud and drove it out of the gates on April 13th 1979, and he recalls the blue dash & carpeting with white leather. So his recollection jives with the factory records. We learn as we go along, and with Lamborghini history you have to be open-minded. So it looks like the leather parts need to simply be white.. like Ive suggested before, it appears the two-tone application for this car was simply an era in its history that we can describe as its misspent youth!
     
  20. ApexOversteer

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    Thank you very much Joe. Just wanted to get the time-line straight for my own curiosity. I'm a bit sad to see the Senape go, as this combination is just about perfect to my eyes.

    The car spent most of it's life so far in what you like to call "a misspent youth", which to me makes the recent changes more akin to a "mid-life crisis", where weight is lost, hair is dyed, new wardrobe is acquired and the gym is visited more often. :D
     
  21. joe sackey

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    Excellent description of the current state of affairs!

    As it relates to what is perfect, a long time ago I decided that for me and for those I advise, these classic Lamborghini deserve to remain whatever livery the original artists created them in. That is perfect.
     
  22. Peter K.

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    Whew! Like we all need another blu/senape interior.
     
  23. joe sackey

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    1121038 is the only one of the 27 small-gauge cars that was built in Blue Tahiti/Bianco.
     
  24. ApexOversteer

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    Indeed, and there will always be purists and there will always be those that choose to restore a car to the way they would have ordered one.
     
  25. joe sackey

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    I used to be the latter, but somewhere along the line, I guess I jumped ship, and and am now the former! LOL.

    The reason the change occurred for me is that I begun to regard these the classic Lamborghnis as works of art. If I owned a Picasso that needed refurbishment, I would never say "you know, I would have painted that sky white instead of blue, so I'm going to go ahead and change it". I would simply respect the artist, and restore it as original.

    I tried restoring a classic Lamborghini (my first effort) in a non-original color, and quite frankly I tired of the following question EVERYWHERE I went:

    "Are those the original colors??"

    As soon and I answered "No, but...", even before I could start my long-winded explanation, in most cases I would see a look of slight disappointment and waning interest, and after a while this begun to make me reflect. Subsequently, I owned another classic Lamborghini in an unusual color, and each time I was able to answer "Yes!" to the same old question and and leave it at that, I was filled with pride & satisfaction. It was a totally contrasting experience for me, and this is what set my resolve and made me understand that as Custodian, it is my duty to Preserve rather than Change. Of course, this is my personal experience, and all IMVHO!

    On the other hand, I completely understand, different strokes for different folks, so I still say, do whatever makes you happy!!
     

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