Countach, the ultimate supercar

Now wait a second... LOL...

If I recall correctly, that first restoration attempt resulted in a Miura SV finished in Verde Miura, a very bright Green, over an "electric" Blue interior.

You have to admit that this color combination, correct for the period, would get the "are those the original colors" question frequently. It just isn't a common combination and, being frank, is unpleasant to some.

(Edit: Unpleasant isn't the right word... perhaps "less pleasing" is more accurate.)

Now, if you had taken, say an Arianco/Tobacco LP400, and refinished it in, say Giallo Fly/Nero, you just wouldn't get that question nearly as much!

Still, I understand the need for purists in the enthusiast community. They keep the rest of us and, hopefully by proxy, the cars honest. In a perfect world, those of us that wish to tailor a Countach, or a Miura or anything else, to our own desires in terms of color combinations or in-period optional equipment, would search out an example that has already been changed from original and move on from there, leaving the "correct", if not "original" examples for the purists.

In any case I definitely agree that there is room in the hobby for all kinds, the "as it came from SantAgata" guys, the "I woulda ordered one like this" guys, and yes, even the "OK, what if they'd built this" guys from Japan.

 

Aaahhhh, I understand what you are saying here, but........... There is a big difference between altering what an artist has created and that which a car company simply put together because of a customers order form. No artistic license here, just following the sales order build sheets.

To my way of thinking, altering the original livery, both interior and exterior, to a different color or scheme is not blasphemus if it retains the original factory available options. One is not changing an "artists creation", merely the "sales order specifications" that the original buyer demanded. And I really doubt that very many of those original buyers would be considered artists!

On a second note concerning the latest pictures by Margaret, I just have to know. What type of filter is she using? The blue in the wheels in the first photo and then the subdued purplish in the wheels in the second, the foliage changing hues from darker to lighter and the interior door panel doing the same thing. Inquiring minds need to know!!

God bless and Merry Christmas!

 

#1121180 was not originally yellow... but rosso/senape...

So, you sold it to Torai M. who is he ? in Belgium... may be you can PM me about this in order to allow me to contact him to join our LCB...

 

The issue of original colour (Canadian spelling) is one that comes up often and one that some seem to have much more passionate opinions than others on. The consistent opinion I tend to find is that those who prefer original colour never really have concrete reasons and generally use generalizations like 'it is what Lamborghini intended' and that the way it left the factory is some kind of divine intervention by the manufacturer. All of these opinions fail to address that when the car was new the person who ordered it and NOT Lamborghini chose the colour. As such in restoring a car the restorer should have the same choice available to them as the person who made the original order. It is for this reason that I am of the opinion that restorations to the orignal colour palette represents the best compromise and the most realistic re-creation of bringing a car back to factory new. This though is my opinion.

Furthermore I have also seen that the people who are generally the most concerned with original colour are also the ones who spend a lot of time caring what other people think of them or their car and they spend more time counting the value they have in their car than driving it and enjoying it. To me those people are owned by their cars rather than them owning it. In many instances they do not put mileage on their cars because they are too afraid of diminishing the value. Again many of these people are millionaires and in my eyes they cannot afford the cars whether they can sign the cheque or not. The car hobby is all about sharing with others and part of that sharing are stories of the colour and how it may have differed from original. If someone is bothered because my car is not original in colour good for them as I rarely meet a true enthusiast who really cares either way. The important thing is to use these cars and share them with others.

Rant over

 

attaboy Rob!

Gary
8394 (no longer the original colour but lookin fine!)
espada

 

+1 !

 

Rob,
I agree speaking about LP400 (because they were all sold) but I disagree about the Lamborghini product range.

Lamborghini chose the colour when a car if not sold, has to be colour configurated when they were ordering the bodies to suppliers : Touring, Bertone & Marrazzi.

 

Mike, thanks for your response.
How long before you have your QuickSilver? Will this remove the cats also?
I also like the QS exhaust, it's tempting.

 

Lars-Erik,
About LP400, I've discovered one more "giallo fly"...

21 giallo fly
8 verde
52 rosso
1 bianco
13 nero
2 marron
8 arancio
4 argento
6 oro
2 champagne
27 bleu
3 luci del bosco
1 bronzo
2 viola

150 total

I want also to comment the fact about #1120001 like Raymond described it to ILR, I've also noticed these red traces of 1st color scheme in some places of the car. It is considered as "muletto" and resprayed "verde" then was sold to Mr. Leimer, co owner with Mr. Rossetti. So for my opinion it changes the colours ratio : 7 verde & 53 rosso

 

Thats Henrik Anselm's old silver Lamborghini Countach -82 year model I believe, he also had a Ferrari 348 TB, a Countach 25 -89 and a Diablo -91

 

Interesting, do you have any clue if Agneta of ABBA owned this car before Henrik?

This car was repainted red on a later occasion and exported from Sweden.

 

Hmm, im not sure that i agree on that one

 

No. But thanks for the pic, i have to check up this one.

 

Hello. I own initial lp400. Seat is a bolt adjustment. Is this original? Or, is it the remodeled one?

Besides,The flasher box is made of frp. Lp400 that had been owned before was made of iron. Do it and you understand the difference of the color? Special RED,Rosso Corsa, Rosso.

Please solve my doubt.

 

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In the car hobby I believe that there are as many opinions as there are cars to choose from. My comments should be taken as the opinion and observation of one enthusiast. The observations I put forward were not to be taken as fact but they do represent what I have seen first hand and have put together over years of attending car shows and enthusiast events where everything from the die hard to the totally uninitiated attend. Now these opinions can be applied to the ownership of any car and not just a Countach.

Seeing as this is a Countach thread I will be the first to admit that I am not a present or past owner of a Countach. For this reason you will not see me giving specific vehicle information that is normally gleaned from the ownership experience. Guessing at what it would be like is futile as I prefer the 'grey hairs' experience. As it is to me, one solidary fan, the Countach is currently selling at prices that do not represent specific value to me and as such I have not bought one. That said I remain by the notion that many of the Countach owners I have come across seem to give a ton of interest to the present and future monetary value of their car and less interest to the ownership and driving experience. As such they may be able to buy a Countach but their ownership short-changed by monetary concerns. Again just take this as the lone opinion of an enthusiast who drives the heck out of the classic cars he owns whether they be expensive or not.

 

What is your VIN ? I will try to help your doubt...

Yes, these 3 red are different... but in my computation I've considered all of them in the red family...

 

That's why the ""

I'm fond of saying "Japan; 145,000 square miles of WTF"

At least these days they don't seem to be actually cutting the cars as much, so many of them can be returned to correct easily.

 

Not sure if this one was the Agneta of ABBA car before Henrik, but I do know that it was later exported from Sweden though. Henrik also owned a red -84 or 85 Countach as well.

 

I think the red one is Gustaf Dieden's old -84 year Countach