great looking Euro Dino GT4 on EBAY

Even my wife says that's a good price. Of course she knows that after this latest round of home improvements I'm not in a position to buy myself an X-Mas gift

 

A heat x-fer debate should follow...

 

Let's not.

The new owner can always remove the paint if he'd so elect...

 

It looks like there is a happy new owner as the ending shows as ended now.

"1974 Ferrari 308 Dino GT4 Euro Freshly Restored! This listing has ended."

Hopefully it is somebody who will share details later. -sc

 

There's an easy task

 

Brett,

I wasn't picking on you or the car (at least personally). I just know that it you drop 100K into a 30K car it is still a 30K car. People do that all the time. I am the biggest GT4 guy out there but I still feel the cars that will command the highest prices down the road are cars where at least all the original parts are there. (once again not talking about your car) I cringe every time i see a ferrari with out all the tools etc. I think all those little bits say that who ever owned the car loved it enough to preserve or replace all that was correct. I hope you get your price the higher the prices go the happier i will be . I still think that my car when assembled will still be worth the 30K I paid for it and the 30K it was when it sold new. and that includes 3 sets of wheels 8 distributors 3 sets of carbs, all books and tools and the original homologation papers! etc etc etc. When I croak my wife is going to have one fancy garage sale!

That said I am hoping for the mayan doomsday so I can retire, if that happens none of this will matter. Just hope I can get a few last drives in before the poles shift!

Rob

 

you guys are fraking nuts. My euro Dino is $18,000, and does not need that much work. Its also super original, and a euro 208 to boot.

so why all the discussion on these nose bleed $30k+ cars that never seem to ACTUALLY sell?

The silver car looks great, but at that price, I would rather buy something else, or two other cars.

You would have to REALLY want a GT4 to spend that much on one.



They are fun, but not *that* fun.

 

again Rob, it's not my car and i'm not selling it...if i was it would have been priced higher and i definitely would have sold it.
i'm still confused about how you've put a $30K ceiling on your car's value though...

it actually sold...i guess that's why...

and i've tried to push several guys in the direction of your car Michael...i have no explanation for why it hasn't sold.

 

Because it's a 208 and not a 308??

 

Really, "over here" I think the rarity among the cognescenti would outweigh any performance differential...

It's also in awesome condition, and in the Gulf Coast Region you will NOT find such a rust free example...all the 1970s cars are starting to blister unless they were stored in the Living Room.....LOL!

 

Even a 308 engine is 172 cubic inches......

That doesn't buy you much "Shock and Awe" at the Sonic Drive In.....

I prefer to toss the hottie in, to answer the question, and let that engine speak for itself.....

 

After thinking about this last night and looking at the website allot of work was done on this car, I still think painting the engine is wrong but hey i painted my valve covers. In the end if someone is willing to pay a specific price then that is what that car is worth. I wish I had the cash and could afford and or register in CA Carreapers 208!! I really want a shelf car but only have one garage space so i guess Ill try to put mine back together!!!

Not sure I made my eariler point as well as I could and this is a note for ANY Ferrari guy looking for any model.

Look for the correct wiper and arm combination, the correct nuts on the airbox (hell they are cheap and easy to come by), the correct hose bands on the carb & oil radiator tubes, steering wheels, horn button ( Almost every Ferrari for sale has the horse at the wrong angle! If someone can turn the horse upright WTF), pouch and contents, books and receipts, tool roll and jack, correct oil filter (there are only two, the fram is unsafe). Correct wheels, correct ignition, etc. If you find these things I feel that you have come across a automobile whose owner not only had respect for the car but attention to detail that will carry over to the actual maintenance, service and love of that example. Lets face it these are all used cars its the ones that have been shown love, respect and an understanding that even after the current caretaker is dead the next caretaker will be able to pass on the history and mystique of the Ferrari to another generation.

And yes I have a different wheel on my car (off a Ferrari race car) but I have saved every part I have removed some even trash so that the nest "caretaker" can return it to its original form.

Rob
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Thank you to all who made positive comments on s/n 08128 because between these and the strong international inquiries/offers without PPIs I received, the owner came to realize he has a very special car that can't easily be replaced and that selling it at a huge loss without taking more time to enjoy the car would be downright foolish. Thus, he had me pull the listing on ebay.

After having Motion Products quote me $30,000-$40,000 for glass-out bare metal respray and trim re-anodization of a 308 Dino GT4 as well as seeing Ferrari dealer Continental Autosports charge a customer nearly $80,000 to restore a 1975 U.S. spec car, I think we should all be grateful to Brett Swaykoski of Gran Turismo for his reasonably-priced 308 Dino GT4 restoration services because many of these cars, including s/n 08128, would likely not be back on the road today if it weren't for him.

Although we can argue 308 Dino GT4 prices all day long, I believe we can all agree that 308 Dino GT4s offer an incredible "bang for the buck" value when comparing them to early Porsche 911 models and other comparable cars that are far less rare, less powerful, less fun to drive, listen fun to listen to, less fun to look at, and are far more expensive to purchase.

 

..and when you're lucky enough to find just such an example, don't offer a penny more than $30K !

 

i dont care that its not sold, thats not the point. T Rutlands is 4 hours away. I have a Sawz-all. Ill chop it up and make little Dino xmas ornaments if i feel like it.

My point is, you can get a nice QV, and many other non Ferrari's for that kind of money. Gt4's are not worth mid $30ks ( in the USA), unless you are blind, or a really devout carb v8 slow Ferrari guy.

There are a hell of alot more cars out there, in this economy for the same money.

THAT is my only point.

Yes there are exceptions, and exceptional cars, but I see a ton of cars that are still for sale, a year later, and not just Ferrari's.

I dont "like" my red 208.

Ever bought a pair a shoes that hurt your feet after a few hours?

same thing.

Too many other cool cars out there to wear blinders.

ps: listing pulled and no sale? .... hmmmmm.

These cars are NOT worth the fantasy island prices.

The 206/246 Dino appreciation of the 308 series is a LONG WAY AWAY, if it ever happens.

 

Not trying to be a smart as or call you out on something but why do you have a 308 GT4 book for your 208? Or is that how they come?

 

Ah.

 

Brett,

I am glad the owner is going to enjoy his car , he will not be disappointed.

The horn button on my table is crooked in my pic but it is always straight on the car. 246 dino prices are coming down a bit

http://www.ferraris-online.com/pages/carintro.php?reqcardir=FE-246GT-05522

that said I believe that GT4 prices will be on the rise. As fewer nice examples appear for sale the value will increase. I think the car is more than a 246 in my mind and soon as many start to figure this out they will be at a premium. When I find it I will post a old letter from a ferrari Dealer GT4's were about 70K and a 275 GTB4 was 30K HA

Just to be clear I was not picking on Brett or his car. Most GT4 prospective buyers probably need some advice as for most this is there first ferrari experience. After 40 years of collecting Ferrari information and being a hard core tifoso, and after 15 years of GT4 ownership, I want to help out new guys looking for a car. If you look back at my posts you will see I was one of the first of the new wave of GT4 cheerleaders and will continue to do so! I love my car like a pair of shoes that fit just right. I would not sell it for 100k, but thats because I want to keep it as long as I am able. What it or any other car is worth is what anyone is willing to pay. A guy about 10 miles from me just 27million for a Bugatti, which is insane to me.

Fave my car is a 308
carreaper please dont cut up your car I will help you sell it. I think it is cool.

Rob
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IMO this "gone through" silver/sabbia euro car is the pick of the litter.

I love the color combination. The lines show best with this color sans boxer scheme.

I think we'll see it again. I hope to. Maybe better timing next time. Still. Too much.

 

bah humbug. But thank you for the kind words, and for putting up with me.

Gt4's are fun, but I am on other boards, for other cars, and i see why the other guys think we are the looney tunes of the gear heads.

I sold a 85 911 with 58k original, pampered, documented, unmolested miles, a super, superior, fracking epic car, for $18,000. You could have driven it anywhere, and even taken it to nerdy car shows, as it had all the doo-dads, and the original radio still.

Yet there are other cars, not just 308's or Ferraris mind you, that are buckets of poo, and are $$$$$$$$, and not 1/10 the car that 911 was. i have had lambos, a Lotus, a Pantera, and more muscle cars than most people should be allowed to ahve.

I just dont see the market going "up" on cash sale luxury cars.

This is not meant to pick on the silver 308. i am sure is a wonderful car, perhaps it found that perfect buyer. Good for them. Que music and fireworks.

The rest of us who dont fly on jets for fun to have lunch in the afternoon, are stuck with too many choices when it comes to the under $30k price point, and the over $50k price point, as that's where i see the biggest separations in the market for fun cars, versus "keepers". Either way, whichever buyer you are, cash in hand, there is a freaking ton of cars, guns, guitars out there for that kinda cash. ( I am not just a Reaper of cars )

Just saying the market is shifting, and cash is king, but worth less.

 

Are you looking for another GT4? Griot has this really nice one....

 

Robert, your car is cherry.. It looks new!

 

superformance.com in england has them the cheapest.
Have done the rebuilt thing in the past but they never seem too reliable. Considering its not a fun job and can leave you stranded.....buy a new one.

 

who cares what you would have to think "long" about...who asked...and who are you ?
the guy that asked for the painted motor has owned a 275 GTB/4, 365 GTC, 365 BB, 512 BB, 288 GTO, 550, 575, Challenge Stradale, 430 Scud, 599...the list goes on and on, and that's just the Ferrari's...and he's described that motor as being being the amongst the finest vintage Ferrari motors he's ever sampled.
why don't you just concentrate on actually owning one before your start beakin' off on the 'net...please, what are you even talking about ?

maybe...i'm sure that's part of it , but there's more to it...if we'd gone 'through' it, it would have been gone long ago and for much, much more...
why Michael can't give it away is up for discussion...maybe it's precisely because he is trying to give it away...

Michael, i've likely read most of your 10 000 post and they've all been 10 000 x sharper and 10 000 x less jaded than this...sorry you can't unload your car...
but this post is bitter nonsense !

ok, sure, i'll cut you some X-mas slack...but if you're talking about the Porsche that's pictured in your profile then, well, sorry...but to me it's ugly as dog ****
and i wouldn't pay $1800 nevermind $18 000...i was behind the wheel of an identical car for 45 minutes on our way to the GP in Montreal in '97 and i wanted out so bad i couldn't wait another minute...it was horrible.
and don't confuse the mess you guys are in down there with the rest of the world...'your' say is powerful but a good product transcends what the US 'market' is 'saying'...and you would never even hear of the transactions of which i speak...most of which happen down there...just not on the internet.
again, i just sold my unfinished-on- it's -way -to restored 1975 US 308 GT4 for $55K...multiple Ferrari owner, owned 10+, in the 'game' for 40 years...
he knows value when he see's it...
so, i'm sorry you can't give your car away...but maybe everyone smells your blood in the water...ever thought of that ?