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What is a F430 engine block worth

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  1. magspider

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    About a year ago I bought a comlpete drive- train including the exhaust from a 2008 Ferrari F430. The car was involved in a fire. Most of the intake was melted . The rest is in good shape. I just finished getting the block cleaned , now I would like to put it up for sale. What would a F430 engine block with crankshaft and pistons be worth. Thanks Ralph
     
  2. BOKE

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    When you figure it out let me know. It would make a great base for my coffee table.
     
  3. mwr4440

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    I have NO idea what I am talking about but I would think if the intake (at least part is metal, yes ???) was melted, that block would be great for a geranium flower planter in the garden but that is about all.

    "Smart guys?" DaveH, Rifledriver, FBB, et-al ?
     
  4. magspider

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    I don't understand what you mean
     
  5. plugzit

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    Many will be concerned as to whether the heat of the fire damaged the block in some way-warpage, temper, etc.
     
  6. magspider

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    The block is in very good shape. I had it checked
     
  7. magspider

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    I thought this thread is about "technical Q and A " not smart comment like the first two.
     
  8. blackforestauto

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    It IS technical Q&A - not sure what's technical about trying to establish a value for a part that you are apparently trying to sell? Having said that, there are a couple listed on car-part.com without prices - suggest you make some phone calls and see what value they place on them.
     
  9. Rifledriver

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    Legit questions.

    Not smart assed liked yours.
     
  10. JeremyJon

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    contact a few auto recyclers, ask thier price and go from there


     
  11. mwr4440

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    Ok. Smart a$$ed answer aside (yet I meant it sincerely).



    By whom and how EXACLY was it checked?

    We are talking thousandths of an inch here making the differnce between an "engine" and a "8-hole flower pot."


    Honest question. Who called it an "engine" and what testing caused them to arrive at that conclusion?
     
  12. magspider

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    I had the block cleaned and check out by a customer of mine that owns very reputable machine shop . most of the fire was centered near the left cilinder head. had the head checked as well. they are still straight , but they do need some work
     
  13. mwr4440

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    Someone mentioned above a good idea; another seller (car breaker) of the same part. Another is to check various parts vendors (at least one is a sponsor here, Ricimbi) sites and get their prices for the various parts you have to sell. Then subtract something as it is a "Fire Sale." Sorry, just the nature of the beast.


    PLEASE keep in mind your potential buyers. They are going to ask the same questions I and others here did and want proof positive, name the shop, the individual who did the tests and see the results of testing on paper with signature, that it still is an "engine," or you will likely never get a sale.

    You are not dealing with novices when dealing with these types of parts to exclusive automobiles. The level of knowledge and sophistication can be astounding.

    A possible buyer WILL likely contact one of the PROs here. Your ducks need to be in a very, very tight row.


    Not trying to be nasty, just a word to the wise.



    Good Luck on the sale.

    Respectfully,
     
  14. magspider

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    Totally agree... that's why i say "it is what it is" . If someone needs it they will buy it for the right price. I'm not in the business in buying and selling Ferrari parts. I pour concrete for a living. The only reason i bought the drive-train was price.
     
  15. Rifledriver

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    Wont be a lot of market for a 430 block outside of the guys running 430 Challenge cars. Get in touch with them.

    Your problem is demand. A new one is very expensive but who needs new ones?
     
  16. Ferraripilot

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    Exactly. Last time I checked, these engines weren't throwing rods through the side of the block regularly so there is little need for blocks.

    Hang on to it. You never know what someone down the pike may need. That's the thing with Ferrari's, often times parts sit for years with no need until suddenly there is a need and someone happens to have some part that is not affiliated to Ferrari and the enormous Ferrari $$$ Ferrari would want for one.
     
  17. magspider

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    your right... i have the gearbox for sale, and not one person has called me about it. if i had a 348 gearbox for sale i would have people calling all the time. Supply and demand
     
  18. xtcgt

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    i bought a used head from from car that was in a fire for a 348 as all my valves were bent. That was cheaper then a valve job! :)
     
  19. magspider

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    do you need a 430 engine block. it in good shape. lol
     
  20. FiatRN

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    You have a classic italian car part problem - you have something that's worth money at the right time to the right person. Until then, it is somewhat difficult to sell. And especially difficult to sell at 'full value.' You have to balance the personal tradeoff between selling quickly and selling for a high price.

    For example, I have a fabulous and unobtainable early rear bumper for a Fiat 124 Coupe. However, it is only really worth something when someone pretzel's their 124 Coupe rear bumper. I could sell it quickly for a small amount. Or I can sit on it and wait until someone needs it and I can re-coupe (sorry) my investment and make a small profit - but I must be able to store the bumper in the meantime.

    What will probably happens is that I will tire of having it in my garage and sell it for 1/2 of what I want for it, opting for lower money now instead of more later - probably a bad business decision, but it will SEEM logical at the time.

    You'll have to balance your need to recoup your investment with the ability to sell it quicker for a lower price, and factor in storage capability. Car parts can be worth a lot if you have the space and time to store them.

    Good luck. In the meantime, you can make art out of the shortblock!

    Jonathan
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  21. magspider

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    I'm not in a rush to sell anything. I actually enjoy having all these Ferrari parts . I consider it as a hobby. its also nice to let people Know I have the parts you need. Maybe I will put it on ebay one day and see what happens. I have the gearbox already listed. and as for that 124 bumper. I used to own a 124. i would have killed for a mint bumper
     
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    #22 BOKE, Dec 30, 2010
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    "I thought this thread is about "technical Q and A " not smart comment like the first two. "

    My question was sincere. With your attitude you can go FYM.
     
  23. magspider

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    what does FYM mean
     
  24. BOKE

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    You are the obviously the smartest Canadian on this thread. Figure it out yourself. Try using the Internet.
     
  25. magspider

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    I hope that you are not trying to say something about my mother. We Italians don't take to well about that
     

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