Ferrari Built from 12 Photos

Nice article of a rebuilt Ferrari from 1951 (Vignale) that was bought in late 1951 and drove back by the fresh owner all the way to Sweden.
Car crased (owner unfortunately was killed), the car was rebuild by Vignale (Coupe) and some years back rebuild to the original spyder based on 12 photo's,
see:
http://www.tinmantech.com/html/ferrari.php

Any more info of car, whereabouts and quality of rebuilding?

Ciao
Oscar

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ps2 that search engine of ferrarichat is so hideous that this might be a repost, in that case sorry....
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This is s/n 0238A and it's a complete nonsense to remove an ORIGINAL Vignale coupe body to put a Vignale spyder REPLICA body on the chassis, even if it's true that 0238A was born as Vignale spyder...

 

Nonsense? If it was born as a Spyder?

The worst case scenario is that it is now BOTH.... it sounds as if it could be returned to Coupe form if they saw fit. Its not like they cut up the coupe body.

It's like a race car having two tails, one for Lemans and one for a short course. Which is more 'correct'?

I think it's cool, for what my opinion is worth. No harm, no foul.

 

Aardy,

I agree with you that it is silly to remove the body, on the other hand the Vignale Berlinetta body was not destroyed but put aside. Nice story for the discussion of fakes/rebuild/reconstruction though....

For me it is just a very nice action of the new owner to try to get the car back to original specs though. Take some courage to get the (nice looking) Berlinetta body of the chassis.

Did not know the story or the chassis number, I think the car must have been from 1953 rather than 1951....

ciao
Oscar

 

Am I alone to see a difference between a beautiful 1953 ORIGINAL coupe body built by Vignale and this 1996 Vignale spyder REPLICA thing ??

 

Aardy-

If this was a Spyder that had been heavily damaged in competition decades ago, only to languish in a barn somewhere, would you restore it to its former glory? Would you consider it a replica if the badly damaged body was painstakingly recreated? No, it would be called a restoration. And if you don't think so, there are a lot of (multi)million dollar Ferraris out there that had 'suffered' the same fate.

Even better, this car STILL HAS its replacement Vignale COUPE body.

When this car was wrecked, decades ago, it was just another used car. They 'fixed' it by fitting an incorrect body to a still-good used chassis. It would have been correct to fit another Spyder body, but for whatever reason lost to time, they didn't. Again, it was just a used car back then.

E

 

In this case, the berlinetta body was made by Vignale a long time ago. So it should be reunited with the chassis. It's like remove the Breadvan's body and put a replica SWB berlinetta body on it. The same happened with #2737GT and others. Not good.

 

Yes, but the fact is that 0024M, 0036M, 0038M, 0138A, 0196A, 0238A, 0125EL original Vignale bodies were removed and now, all these cars are UGLY with their REPLICA bodies...

 

So it's an issue of aesthetics! I see......

 

I found this car in dissembled state in the early 1980's and at that time, it had with the pile of parts ,a Vignale coupe body from a different chassis, I eventually traded the project with a Swedish friend for something else and he had it redone over a 10 year period to the present configuration that is as close as possible to the first iteration. I have a very current picture just not handy today, will post it next week . What is interesting to me is that it was ice raced in Sweden very early like 1954 and today it back in Sweden in similar trim and being driven in ice and snow (albeit not raced)

jeffrey vogel
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0238A with a Vignale coupe body from a different chassis ?? Are you joking ??

 

nope this was a disassembled project i found in Midwest ,the coupe body was from another Ferrari that had it's body replaced as well. It was more common then you think, My old 250MM
was first a spyder but when I got it had a closed body similar to TdF , and now the current owner has a part-replica Vignale spyder body on it and it's been crashed twice since ! that was 0296

 

0238A, does anyone wanna do some picture trading? I got nothing on this one!

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Well 0086E more recently lost its body of what 50 years?. RIP.

 

The true story of the 340 Ferrari:

http://www.barchetta.cc/english/all.ferraris/Detail/0238A.340America.htm

And this is what it looked like just before the body was painted in it's original red a year ago.
The car will be back on the road this year.

And who knows? The coupé body will probably be displayed on another italian chassi from the same epoch. The cars are in the hands of the most skilled car restorers in Sweden.

L-E
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Sorry but I don't understand : are you saying the Vignale coupe body below came from another s/n ??

You must be wrong : this was 0238A which was rebodied by Vignale as coupe in 1953 after a crash in 1953.

Removing its original Vignale coupe body was a complete nonsense.

I prefer a car with its second ORIGINAL body than another with its first REPLICA body.

All these rebodied cars have NO SOUL...
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Is a beautiful song performed bij Hawkens and of course Charlie Parker, but for a piece of metal? I think it is great the owner converted this car to its beautiful original looks, as I said it takes some courage to do so. He did not ruin any history or art.
The discussions about remakes and fakes will continue and have not my interesse, but stating that a new body doesnt have any soul is nonsense. Soul is in people, music and art, not in a piece of metal.

So hats off for the people who started this reconstruction as it is now as close as can be as it once was in Sweden, and oh yes I will ice race myself overthere this March.....unfortunately not in a vintage Ferrari, must be great fun....
Ciao
Oscar

 

0848 was born in 1966 as a 330 P3, not as a P3/412P.

Why not removing the 1967 P3/412P ORIGINAL body to put on the frame a 2011 330 P3 REPLICA body ??

I'm sure you would love it as it's only piece of metal...

 

Oh yes, I forgot to say I would put the ORIGINAL body of 0848 on a 330 GT 2+2 frame of course as it's only piece of metal...

 

http://www.motorima.com/projects.php?id=41

 

The car was rolled about 30 days after delivery so it was not "just another used car". It was not really wrecked either. Rolled on soft snow and fully repairable but Bjurström decided to have it redone for his own selfish reasons.

I hope story on how this car was rebodied working from 12 old photos is a joke.

Best wishes, Kare

 

Oscar makes a good point in regards to these remade bodies.

I point to the example of S/N: 0262M and it's recreated Abarth detachable body (remade by, I believe it was Wayne Sparling?). Would people feel the same negative way about this car?

I saw it in person back in Monterey in 2004 (when it was up for auction) and was quite amazed with it. I had only known about it through black & white photos in Abarth books. Without his efforts, that's where that car would remain, in black & white photos in a book...
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0262M had an original 1954 Scaglietti spyder body before the restoration and it's this body that shoud have been saved.

Today, 0262M is just another car with a REPLICA body and if you look carefully, you even would notice several errors in the shape of this body...

 

Looks good to me and it's in the right place too, i don't see the problem !
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I see the problem : the pilot has two arms...