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  1. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Dec 10, 2005
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    Pap

    I reckon!! Put your mind to it and anything can be achieved. :):)
     
  2. karabil

    karabil Karting

    Feb 22, 2010
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    Hi PAP, I have a 308 GTBi undergoing full engine and suspension rebuild, a (near?) concourse carb 308, a carb 308 undergoing a full body rebuild, a magnificent 2 owner 328 GTS, 2 other very nice 328 GTS, a 19,000 K 328 GTB, a 3,000 k 355 F1 berlinetta with factory carbon seat, challenge grill etc and lastly a 355 F1 spider.
    I will try to get some pictures up when I find some time. I do have two cars up for sale on carsales at the moment--the 2 owner 328 GTS with 49,000 k and the 328 GTB with 19,000 k so you can see some pics there.
    Just too address the original question to POTYA? --- the condition and service history of the car will dictate the maintenance cost far more than the model--ie a bad 308 could cost more to maintain than a good 355 or 360. Buy the best car in respect of condition, k's and service history you can afford regardless of the model. If you buy a "bargain" you may lose both ways----lots of money----no driving while waiting for repairs.
    IMO you should budget as follows---- A very good 308 is going to cost $80,000 to $100,000 plus approx. $2-3,000 per year , a very good 328(GTS) is going to cost $90,000 to $110,000 plus $2-3,000 per year,a very good 355 is going to cost $130,000 to $160,000 plus around $4,000-$5,000 per year and a very good 360 would be around $140,000 to $180,00 and I'm not sure of the maintenance. This is assuming you buy a VERY good carto begin with and no surprises.
     
  3. alexm

    alexm F1 Veteran

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    Everyone has their own tastes & likes of course but it's been interesting to see different points of view 308 vs 328.. I'd love to hear your experience with them if you wanted to share..
     
  4. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    who's doing it?
     
  5. b27

    b27 F1 World Champ

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    YES, VERY GOOD ADVICE.
     
  6. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 7, 2006
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    whats ya business partner doing with his car?
     
  7. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    what would you know?
     
  8. F40LMGTC

    F40LMGTC Formula 3

    Mar 15, 2005
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  9. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 7, 2006
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  10. F40LMGTC

    F40LMGTC Formula 3

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    we will always disagree on F40's v F50's. However here's one we both agree on. 308 is a much nicer looking car than a 328 and has much more personality than a 328.
    308's are a very reliable car. Mine has done 86000 k's and has never had an engine rebuild and once every 6 months I start it up and take it for a run. I'm always amazed at how easy it starts (after standing for 6 months), and smooth the engine is. It's almost like it will go forever.
     
  11. mhh

    mhh F1 Veteran

    Feb 16, 2004
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    At the rate of one start every 6 months, it probably will go on forever. :)
     
  12. F40LMGTC

    F40LMGTC Formula 3

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    Just had a thought........................does the spider version of the 355 have problems changing cambelts with the engine in, because of the area behind the seats and firewall for the roof to sit in ???????????
    (maybe you can only change the belts with the engine out.......seeing mine is a spider maybe it's impossible to change the belts on a spider without the engine coming out)
     
  13. 360C

    360C F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    In driving dynamics they are similar as it is dictated by the looney engineering solution to packaging an engine and gearbox in a small space. Ferrari chose to place a thumping big 12 cylinder OVER the gearbox, leading to a very high centre of gravity. The crankshaft is something close to 2 ft off the ground from memory. Additionally, the back 4 cylinders and the some of the drivetrain is actually behind the rear wheels! Roll oversteer at the limit with all that momentum can be interesting, especially if it is wet. You don't notice it so much at normal road speeds; but on circuits or Tarmac rallying one you had best know what you are doing. I think it is fair to say that the TR with it's wider rear track and tyres might be a bit less savage; but it is still more Sumo wrestler than ballet dancer.
    They are also big, heavy and wide cars and are not as nimble as 308's. The brakes are pathetic when pushed hard. I used to destroy a new set of pads every track day at Calder even though I looked after them and used the best compounds around at the time.
    On the plus side they sound fabulous and go like stink (for the period).

    If something major goes wrong the expense can be crippling.
     
  14. vegas1

    vegas1 F1 Rookie

    Jul 28, 2004
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    What about 348 engine in pics Pap ???
     
  15. poyta

    poyta Karting

    Mar 7, 2004
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    I'll be honest I haven't really started looking, carsales was just the first place I looked and surely its a good starting point. Is it really that hard to find a good one? Surely one like this seems to be in very good condition and would be ideal - Also well within my budget.


    http://www.lorbek.com.au/view.php/used_cars/1985_Ferrari_308_GT_GTS_QUATTRO_VALVOLE_Rosso_Corsa_5_Speed_Manual_Targa/4366107/
     
  16. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    #166 PAP 348, Jan 11, 2011
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    Wow man!! WHAT a collection! :D:D

    Why so many of the same model? :eek::eek:

    Yes sir. Engine in pic coming right up. ;);)

    Thumbs up for fuel tank removal. :eek::eek:
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  17. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Dec 10, 2005
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    #167 PAP 348, Jan 12, 2011
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    10 yr old, 15K mile cam belt and tensioners out of a 91 348. :):)

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  18. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
     
  19. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Absolutely. :):)

    As mentioned, I have seen pics of 16 yr old cams belts in 2 different 348s and they look like this one. :D:D

    Mine has 8 yrs and approx 7000 km on it and I am sure it will still look pretty damn good if I removed it tomorrow. :):)
     
  20. karabil

    karabil Karting

    Feb 22, 2010
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    Check for rust/rust repairs lower rear guards (for example). Some cars can appear perfect in the adds. A quick inspection or asking someone who knows the car may tell a different story. If all checks out spend the money on a PPI by a ferrari specialist and contact the previous owner/owners and the cars mechanic if possible. PM me for a list--there are about 4-5 great outfits in Melbourne. Again you are welcome to come and do you research here--I have 3 308's---1 x GTBi, 2 x carb GTS. one is for sale but seriuosly I am happy just to show you the differences and chat about the V8 Ferraris in general then go off shopping.

    Oh and PAP --- I just got on a roll and it was always my intention to sell a couple of cars---the better ones and keep and drive the others!! I have actually spent far more time polishing and detailing the cars to ensure they are as near to perfect as I can get them. Now is the time to sell 2 of 4 cars --a 328 GTB, a 328 GTS, a 308 GTS and a 355 Berlinetta. BTW anyone on ferrari chat is welcome to come out and look and talk crap--don't have to be a buyer---just bring you own beer!
     
  21. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Dec 10, 2005
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    Pap

    Fantastic mate!! Ill be sure to bring over a carton your favourite beer (VB?? ;);)) on my next visit to Melbourne. :):)

    Would love to shoot the sh*t with you and talk Ferraris. :D:D
     
  22. b27

    b27 F1 World Champ

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  23. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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  24. 360C

    360C F1 World Champ
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    I saw that one at a Lorbek function late last year, forgot all about it.
    It looks like a very nice car and is certainly worth having a look at. No idea about the mechanical condition; but the cosmetics are seriously good and it's obviously been well looked after. The FCA register indicates it is a 2 owner car, first was John Ball and last was Ken Hunter.
    If you are serious I would start by looking at this car.
     
  25. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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